These people need to take a vacation and come back in a few months when the vision models get better/cheaper. Astra is already good at taking screenshots and acting on it (part of the agi claims).
I'm a seeing-eye dog for a computer
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Re: I'm a seeing-eye dog for a computer
#82One of the first things I tell the junior/mid-level developers I mentor is "You can't debug something just by reading the code." We all have a mental model of how our code works, and it's usually a bit wrong. Bugs are the real world manifestations of those mistakes. When you read the code it's all filtered through your model, and that makes you blind to seeing why something unexpected happened. In order to debug some…
You are doing those junior engineers a disservice with this message.
I'm usually trying to go in the other direction with them - you don't need to be able to reproduce it yourself or see the log files to narrow down or find the cause of an issue.
Logs/etc are just additional tool that make it easier.
Lost track of how many juniors I've seen throw their hands up and say they can't progress because they don't have logs/clean repro
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I share the sentiment but the question here is how long can we maintain the balance point where the human in the agentic loop is required. It might be a window lasting only a few years, or for the foreseeable future; I think the answer lies the opaque compute economics of the frontier lab: how well models keep scaling and how economically sustainable is serving those models under the current market conditions.
If my job gets automated, I'll find something else to do. I wouldn't have wanted lamplighters to succeed in preventing electrification, so it would be unfair for me to prevent the automation of my job if it can be done.
Re: I'm a seeing-eye dog for a computer
#84I like to think of training and improving AIs as bringing freedom to the world. The useless toil and labor associated with rebuilding the same solutions into different contexts is finally at an end. Coding was never the reward. Acting as a translator for a machine is far worse than allowing the machine to solve the mundane parts and leave you with bigger building blocks to play with. After 25 years I have to confess…
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> discuss things with people in private, invitation only forums One of the great things about not having ads on rangerovers.pub is that Google is just not interested in indexing it, because it doesn't make them any money. It shows up here and there in search results, sporadically, especially if you know a username or phrase specific to the site, but other than that if you want to know about it you need to be told abo…
I have seen a bit of a resurgence in your classic 2005-era type interface php bulletin board in a browser, as people relegate their facebook/instagram/whatever accounts to only keeping up with family stuff posted by boomers who won't use anything else, or things like niche neighborhood based buy & sell groups (or community notice groups in like a town of 12,000). I guess there's at least 3 or more active and currentl…
I'd love to write a backend for it to expose the forum as NNTP ;-)
Re: I'm a seeing-eye dog for a computer
#86I like to think of training and improving AIs as bringing freedom to the world. The useless toil and labor associated with rebuilding the same solutions into different contexts is finally at an end. Coding was never the reward. Acting as a translator for a machine is far worse than allowing the machine to solve the mundane parts and leave you with bigger building blocks to play with. After 25 years I have to confess…
Viva la revolution! Serious question - what do you do for fun? I find fishing with friends enjoyable, and using my hands tidying up the old place I bought. It’s not innovating software I’ll never use but I’ll never tire of writing the same old ASP that delivers my clients the results they’re after.
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It was obviously a sarcastic joke. I get it if you didn't catch that, but do you think my username glorifies Sam Altman? And is that a reason to talk negatively about me? You doubt reason will convince me? And at the end, you call *me* a privileged fool. Wow, just wow. I hope you don't consider NWA a racial hate group given their name. Also, I don't think you can cite a subjective take as objectively correct by inclu…
The comment and username in isolation probably wouldn't have elicited that response from me. In combination, I took you for a delusional ultra-fan. I think anyone who genuinely thinks AI is a wonderful thing for everyone probably enjoys the privilege of its use, reducing their own workload, without it (yet) affecting their employment, or their local environment, and possibly even lacks the empathy to comprehend negat…
I think (this is subjective opinion from my experience so take it as such and not something objective) but a lot of your want for a better world is also linked with your desire to shame and ridicule people. That is not a healthy outlook towards life imo. Not that what you think is wrong morally (i am on your side actually as you realised) but rather the relationship with the moral values. And its bad not because your outrage is fake or stupid but because that relationship is not good for the self eventually. I can think OpenAI is doing a lot of wrong things, I think Sam Altman is sketchy person who is definitely not a morally good agent but I don't need to hate him or get triggered by him. I also think if he just disappears tomorrow, there will no hit to the broader forces which we should actually protest against imo.
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Haha, it’s figurative and requires squinting. “rational actors with common axioms will reach shared conclusions through repeated exchange of information”. So if you’re not reaching a shared conclusion then you’re not exchanging information, you don’t have shared axioms, or one of you isn’t rational. If it didn’t land with you, it was just a poor choice of phrase and while I care to attempt to explain it, I don’t care…
Have you heard about the free energy principle and free energy model of emotions? In this model, all brain does is minimize the prediction error, so all values and beliefs are bayesian priors by necessity.
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I used to think that the people who could not apply any semblance of logical reasoning online were just bots or trolls, but then I started meeting them in real life.
Sure, they exist, but online they are simulatenously unable to apply any logic and then surprisingly coherent and intelligent in the next reply.
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The comment and username in isolation probably wouldn't have elicited that response from me. In combination, I took you for a delusional ultra-fan. I think anyone who genuinely thinks AI is a wonderful thing for everyone probably enjoys the privilege of its use, reducing their own workload, without it (yet) affecting their employment, or their local environment, and possibly even lacks the empathy to comprehend negat…
How is homophobia coming from me? Also yes, sociopathy in a powerful organization is bad okay but you are not attacking sociopathy, you are attacking Sam Altman personally and claiming its bad because he's a sociopath (without any medical basis just circumstancial subjective opinion). Lets say fine, we remove him and every other bad CEO, what now? Do you think the system we have built will not put these type of peopl…
> that relationship is not good for the self
I’d expect to come across, or read in my eyes, differently. Maybe more sympathetic, gracious, or kind, or I can’t think of the right word. Guess I see some bones one could throw to the interlocutor considering you probably share much of the same worldview.
Thanks for provoking some thought! I’ll come back to this one for another read and reconsider outrage & healthy outlooks on life.