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216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

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Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

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Yes, but support in devices and cables is very limited.

How much would support increase when manufacturers realise how few of their TVs don't get connected to the network?

Even if it did support it, nobody connects their TV to their local network via HDMI, they connect it to their PC. And, as far as I'm aware, no PCs automatically start sharing networking with whichever networks they are connected to.

That could of course change. Could be even a nice feature for connecting your TV to the network via your multi media center, if the bandwidth is good.

Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

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All of your blocking still doesn't change the fact that your LG TV is actively trying to scan your local hardware, gathering IP-addresses of devices, wi-fi names and signal strengths, creating digital finger prints of the audio and video projected on your screen, recording audio through the internal microphone, even when the TV is in standby or without an internet connection, saving the collected data locally and upl…

Do transparent faraday cages exist?

WiFi / 5G faraday cages exist, but they have been downrated for affecting the signal quality somewhat...

Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

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I agree with your sentiment but unless the person you replied to edited their comment it seems misguided. They mostly just said they didn't agree with you, there was no outrage or one upping, and genuine discussions should be encouraged

Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

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Just don't buy a smart TV. Buy a good "dumb" TV (or just get a good large monitor), then hook it up to a set top box (with TV capabilities as needed).

That would be lovely. Unfortunately, to the best of my knowledge, nobody sells (for instance) high-quality 65"+ OLED non-"smart" TVs. "dumb TV" options are limited to older display technology.

Projectors are probably the only remaining exception here, and obviously don't work in all use cases.

Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

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"Samba unites TV, digital, and behavioral data through AI to power faster, more accurate media decisions. We help the world’s leading brands and agencies reach the right audiences, measure real outcomes, and access signals no one else has." https://samba.com/

Kill it with fire.

Such a pity the name is associated with freeing proprietary software.

The _real_ samba: https://www.samba.org/

Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

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But it's never connected to the internet, not even for software updates. If the TV isn't connected to the internet there's no reason to update it, assuming the TV works as expected. It's a trade off I guess. I use Home Assistant to control TVs, so kinda need the access.

Again, what I mean is, even if you're able to block all these things, the company LG is still secretly and actively trying to collect and process user data, without user awareness or consent.

Actually what I wanted from the video was impact of user consent, but it doesn't seme to cover this: what happens if you accept nothing, or the minimal set of consent (so not including audio) of licenses to allow you to run third-party apps? I recall there are four checkboxes to check.

My guess is: not much.

Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

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I agree with your sentiment but unless the person you replied to edited their comment it seems misguided. They mostly just said they didn't agree with you, there was no outrage or one upping, and genuine discussions should be encouraged

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Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

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GDPR compliance lawsuitssss in 3...

Somehow the EU only appears to target big wealthy service providers. I wonder why.

Wasn't there concern that they would target small companies and thus stifle the innovation? Seems like a win-win to me.
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