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Re: Ask HN: Fable hacked my piano, can I release the results?

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Post by jiehong »

hypfer wrote: post #88

From my understanding of laws in Germany, in Germany, you're allowed to do all of this if your goal is interoperability of systems. If your goal is to not pay them money - which you strategically unwisely hinted at with this question - then that's not covered by that exemption, I think. So from my understanding, adding new music and releasing the tooling for that should be fine, but IANAL. Frankly, what is or isn't l…

That’s the way.

And because software vendors never provide a Linux version of their stuff, you kinda have to do it anyways, because you end up with a hardware piece you can’t use without.

Re: Ask HN: Fable hacked my piano, can I release the results?

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Post by kbcool »

doawoo wrote: post #70

Did you really need to ask a massive LLM and burn tokens on this?? A few minutes of googling has revealed a huge amount of this information just laying out in the open, and, a whole tool to author your own files that someone sells as independent software! ( https://www.kinura.net/mid2pianocd/ )

Yes. How else could the LLM even begin to do what it did otherwise. Not a criticism of you, just a place for a rant but I still find it incredible when people think they're doing something novel when really they're just reassembling existing work.

What really reinforced this for me was that I recently vibe coded a home assistant addon that, as it turns out, there was a github project that did almost the same thing. The initial implementation that came out of the LLM was essentially the same just with just some small tell in things like the logging that came from what I prompted it.

It was a very small project (maybe 500 LOC) so there's a greater chance of coincidence but it really felt like the office junior had just ripped off someone else's work and tried to hide it (badly) and really, that's exactly what they do

Re: Ask HN: Fable hacked my piano, can I release the results?

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Post by kolinko »

progval wrote: post #27
Giefo6ah wrote: post #15

If you live in the USA, the "decoy notes" may be considered an "effective technical measure" from the "Digital Millennium Copyright Act". If you live in Europe, this restriction may be considered "gatekeeping" and exempted by the Digital Markets Act. Don't bring attention to yourself by asking for permission. Publish your codec, and if the company cares about this they will send a cease and desist. If you want the wo…

> If you live in Europe, this restriction may be considered "gatekeeping" and exempted by the Digital Markets Act. That's not how the DMA works at all, there is no concept of gatekeeping practices. Instead, the EU Commission designates companies that act as gatekeeper for some services (current list here: https://digital-markets-act.ec.europa.eu/gatekeepers-portal_... ) which then puts constraints on what they do.

But we have various exemptions that are for all the companies, no? E.g. you're free to hack and crack software to do your own backup copies.

Re: Ask HN: Fable hacked my piano, can I release the results?

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Post by deaux »

embedding-shape wrote: post #77
Doohickey-d wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don't want to be responsible for it, another way is to just publish it anonymously: make a GitHub that isn't attached to your real name etc, perhaps using a one-off disposable email address, and put it there. Then you don't have to think about what the lawyers think. Worst case it'll get taken down, but by that point it'll likely be popular enough that there'll be plenty of copies. [Pirate flag emoji here]

> Worst case it'll get taken down, Eeh, worst case scenario you'll get sued as Microsoft will have no problem with handing over everything they have from your Windows installation information, GitHub accounts, NPM authentication and everything else they own today if the courts tell them to. You can't just commit crimes on the open internet without really hiding IPs and what not, and expect that to not come back to ha…

> You can't just commit crimes on the open internet without really hiding IPs and what not, and expect that to not come back to haunt you eventually.

Not sure what you're talking about, the current AI boom is entirely based on committing crimes on the open internet without really hiding IPs and what not.

So is much of big tech in general.

Re: Ask HN: Fable hacked my piano, can I release the results?

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Post by embedding-shape »

deaux wrote: post #116
embedding-shape wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Worst case it'll get taken down, Eeh, worst case scenario you'll get sued as Microsoft will have no problem with handing over everything they have from your Windows installation information, GitHub accounts, NPM authentication and everything else they own today if the courts tell them to. You can't just commit crimes on the open internet without really hiding IPs and what not, and expect that to not come back to ha…

> You can't just commit crimes on the open internet without really hiding IPs and what not, and expect that to not come back to haunt you eventually. Not sure what you're talking about, the current AI boom is entirely based on committing crimes on the open internet without really hiding IPs and what not. So is much of big tech in general.

Keyword being "you". "They" can commit crimes, because they're big tech companies who give gifts to the right people. But "you" are not "they".
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