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Re: Keep Our Servers Running

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Post by ndriscoll »

aurareturn wrote: post #79
do_it_for_free wrote: post #56

They have some positions posted on their job board. I would do this for free. They should adopt a volunteer workforce like the Redcross Code4Good Volunteer Enterprise Web Services team. Senior Datacenter Network Infrastructure Engineer Full Time San Francisco, CA, US 30+ days ago Requisition ID: XXXX Salary Range: $140,000.00 To $200,000.00 Annually

Pick 2 out of 3 for these kinds of volunteer work: - Capable - Reliable - Free You going to be on call at 3am to bring services back up doing it for free?

Is it very important that they have someone to restore service at 3am? This isn't a hospital here; it's more like a library. My library is closed at 3am every day!

Re: Keep Our Servers Running

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Post by aurareturn »

ndriscoll wrote: post #121
aurareturn wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pick 2 out of 3 for these kinds of volunteer work: - Capable - Reliable - Free You going to be on call at 3am to bring services back up doing it for free?

Is it very important that they have someone to restore service at 3am? This isn't a hospital here; it's more like a library. My library is closed at 3am every day!

Ok how about 6am? 7pm?

The point is that someone needs to bring the service back up and they can't rely on volunteers to do it whenever they feel like it.

Re: Keep Our Servers Running

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Post by jeltz »

minraws wrote: post #113
tossandthrow wrote: post #109

2:1 by who? That is not written. These types of schemes ring very poorly in my head for charity. If someone has the ability to give 2$ for every 1$ I give, why are they only giving on contingence? Just give the money!

Normal People get to think they are helping 3$'s worth, and Rich people get to think they are helping 3$'s worth... Both side get to feel like they got more out of the initial investment. 1:3 2:3 Everyone wins inside their heads and its nice to live life where everyone wins... Also easier to justify charity when you think you are winning.. I feel like it's pretty good for what it is.

Actually rich people think they re helping more than that. If we assume the average length of a recurring donation is 6 months they feel they help 8 dollars for every 2 they donate.

But otherwise you are right, this is done because it makes everyone donating feel like a winner other than few cynics like me. :D But that said I do not mind these drives.

Re: Keep Our Servers Running

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Post by edelbitter »

klamann wrote: post #95
ThePowerOfFuet wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Send EUR via SEPA transfer to GB74RBOS16107510000470. (Yes, the page only mentions wire transfer, but SEPA transfers work too, are faster, and cost everyone less.) Source: https://help.archive.org/help/how-do-i-make-a-wire-transfer/

there would still be fees for a wire transfer from a EU bank to this bank in the US, right? And I wouldn't get a donation receipt that would be accepted by the tax man over here anyway.

RBOS is short for Royal Bank of Scotland. When accepting SEPA credit transfer (though they are not legally mandated to offer the instant execution variant), I don't think there is even a mechanism to sneak in extra fees, beyond what the sending institute already billed (typically: 0.00€).

Re: Keep Our Servers Running

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Post by nosrepa »

bawolff wrote: post #116
wongarsu wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All that tells us is that the site is probably not run by the FBI. It could still be run by the CIA, Russian intelligence, or some lone morally neutral guy from Prague

If it was run by the CIA or russian intelligence, they wouldn't have burned their asset with petty grudges.

Have you seen this current administration?

Re: Keep Our Servers Running

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Post by itake »

tossandthrow wrote: post #109

2:1 by who? That is not written. These types of schemes ring very poorly in my head for charity. If someone has the ability to give 2$ for every 1$ I give, why are they only giving on contingence? Just give the money!

In another charity, I offered the 1:1 match. My reasoning was

0/ marketing

1/ credibility. Someone wealthy thinks the charity is important

If you publicly give $2m, people might think, that’s probably enough… no need to give more.

If you quietly give $2m usd and a tree falls in a forest…

Re: Keep Our Servers Running

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Post by ndriscoll »

aurareturn wrote: post #122
ndriscoll wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it very important that they have someone to restore service at 3am? This isn't a hospital here; it's more like a library. My library is closed at 3am every day!

Ok how about 6am? 7pm? The point is that someone needs to bring the service back up and they can't rely on volunteers to do it whenever they feel like it.

My local library isn't open at 6am either (opens at 9, or 10 on Sat and 1 on Sun), and closes before 7 on Fri-Sun.

> someone needs to

Do they though? Why is there some assumed urgency? What happens if they don't do it "whenever they feel like it" (e.g. normal hours)?

Computers also generally don't randomly just stop working, and if they did in this case (network engineer), it's almost certainly the ISP anyway.

Re: Keep Our Servers Running

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Post by klamann »

edelbitter wrote: post #124
klamann wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

there would still be fees for a wire transfer from a EU bank to this bank in the US, right? And I wouldn't get a donation receipt that would be accepted by the tax man over here anyway.

RBOS is short for Royal Bank of Scotland. When accepting SEPA credit transfer (though they are not legally mandated to offer the instant execution variant), I don't think there is even a mechanism to sneak in extra fees, beyond what the sending institute already billed (typically: 0.00€).

I still don't get it. The GB74R.. account number is listed under Final Bank/Beneficiary Bank, which is Citizens Bank NA in the United States. Where does the Royal Bank of Scotland come in? There's no SEPA account number listed for RBOS. Also, Scotland is not part of the EU anymore, so there can be significant fees when wiring money to post-brexit UK.

Re: Keep Our Servers Running

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Post by aurareturn »

ndriscoll wrote: post #127
aurareturn wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok how about 6am? 7pm? The point is that someone needs to bring the service back up and they can't rely on volunteers to do it whenever they feel like it.

My local library isn't open at 6am either (opens at 9, or 10 on Sat and 1 on Sun), and closes before 7 on Fri-Sun. > someone needs to Do they though? Why is there some assumed urgency? What happens if they don't do it "whenever they feel like it" (e.g. normal hours)? Computers also generally don't randomly just stop working, and if they did in this case (network engineer), it's almost certainly the ISP anyway.

Archive is likely one of the top traffic destinations on the internet. Your local library is likely not.

Maybe they want to hire someone full-time is so they don't have to have a policy of whenever they feel like it?

Having a reliable service is likely one of the reasons why their donors donate in the first place. Why do organizations and wealthy people still want to donate if the service goes down for 2 days and no one cares? Why would this kind of non-profit attract top volunteers in the first place?

Re: Keep Our Servers Running

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Post by devilbunny »

zikduruqe wrote: post #117
tossandthrow wrote: post #109

2:1 by who? That is not written. These types of schemes ring very poorly in my head for charity. If someone has the ability to give 2$ for every 1$ I give, why are they only giving on contingence? Just give the money!

Just like my local grocery store. They'll ask me to round up my purchase to help feed the hungry. Why can't they not invest in all the infrastructure and systems to support this, and just donate a few nickels and quarters themselves. Plus they have the food to give.

Big, successful grocery stores operate on a 3% margin. It’s mostly a commodities business. Doing all that alone could entirely wipe their profit.
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