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Re: Programming is Art

#42
Art is a system. And programming is a system too. They are different systems.

> If I learned PHP, I could build back-end applications. If I learned HTML and CSS, I could build websites.

So, what have you been doing for the last 10 years and why i see only 2026 in your github?

Re: Programming is Art

#43

Playing go is art. Go was even considered one of the four main arts in ancient China. Along with calligraphy, instrumental music and brush painting[0]. It didn't stop AlphaGo from beating the best human go players, though. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_arts

It won't stop people from enjoying playing Go, though

Re: Programming is Art

#45
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Programming can be art. And I totally resonate with the pleasure of crafting code and the artistic aspect of it. However, it is not just that, and when it comes to making a living, then the story changes. And for that second part, man is AI a killer tool. And I'll add,: even for the first part, the story isn't black and white. If you use AI very carefully and in a collaborative manner, meaning not for the "creative w…

> Programming can be art.

On that at least we agree (ignoring the rubbish about "AI", unless it describes an artificial intelligence with at least peer-level (i. e. human-level) agency, and not a language model). The same goes for the ridiculous, but for chatbot lovers certainly convenient, notion that art stops being art because money (or some other form of compensation) changed hands. That's just a reheated version of the tosh incompetents threw at artists since time immemorial. I remember the last time when it was very en vogue: the pathetic "anti-art" movements of the 90s.

And programming? Processes and their manifestations, depending on definitions of course, can indeed be art. Just like writing and its manifestations (e. g. poems, novels).

Re: Programming is Art

#46
I am (still) not a proponent for AI, however I hope AI might do to programming what the camera did to painting, and I hope that will be a good thing.

What we understand as painting today is very different then what painting meant pre-camera. Now it is mostly a leisure activity and creative outlet. Where back in the day it was a serious occupation for capturing reality, and therefore creativity was taking second stage.

I hope that coding will go that way and even though I might lose my current occupation. I feel like that might be what is needed to get out of the stagnation of current day software development (compared to early computer history). Take the money out of coding, bring the creativity in, take out the investors and keep the enthusiasts. I think that might be good for the activity that we call programming.

Also "software engineering" involves vastly more then programming or coding, so I doubt software engineering will disappear.

Re: Programming is Art

#47
I used to really enjoy writing code, to the point where I would have thought of it as art and fine contemplation.

25 years of corporate development beat that enjoyment out of me. AI is just the final nail in the coffin. I have no enjoyment left in coding; I firmly believe the current crop of programming languages will go in the same vein as human written assembly language did.

I don't believe the current LLM-based AI will replace most other jobs, but I think it is well suited to completely replace much of programming/IT and morph it into an unrecognizable job role.

Re: Programming is Art

#48

Art is a system. And programming is a system too. They are different systems. > If I learned PHP, I could build back-end applications. If I learned HTML and CSS, I could build websites. So, what have you been doing for the last 10 years and why i see only 2026 in your github?

I read your comment first, and thought it was a bit uncharitable to the author. But then looking through their social media presence. No sign of commentary before late 2025.

Looking at the wayback machine, the site was first published in January 2026 with no blog. Then in Feb, the site was updated with a blog archive, including posts from 2025, before the site's blog functionality was active.

The blog post ends:

>I don’t use AI when writing. It produces soulless, bland text. AI slop that no one wants to read

But if you look back through earlier essays you see stuff like this:

>Technology evolves. Complacency endures. Building something means taking responsibility for its survival. It’s respect for time that can never be regained

Which has all of the hallmarks of a Claude generated essay (or just a human failing the Turing test).

Re: Programming is Art

#49
I think a discussion about programming being an art is incomplete without bringing into scope live coding, where you write code that produces music in front of an audience; Processing, a programming language for artists; and literate programming, where you intertwine prose and code to form a coherent narrative or story.

Many people here are talking about programming as a tool you use to solve problems and build systems, but that’s just the subset of programming tasks corporations pay you to do. Programming is for many other things and it can be as expressive or constrained as you like.

Re: Programming is Art

#50
I read your essay "Programming is Art" — interesting thoughts. I run into this constantly as well. But for me, AI itself gives me the initial idea, which I then develop and shape my own way. In my product, I train it to think exactly the way I want it to. It would be great to talk about this.
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