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Re: Ed McMillen: Ubuntu Store Sold Super Meat Boy Without Permission, Has Yet To Pay

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Post by Tichy » Sun, Dec 23, 2012, 2:43 PM UTC

chris_wot wrote: post #4

jacquesm wrote: post #2

Pirates is way too heavy a term here. Canonical is large enough and the issue muddy enough that I don't think this is a warranted accusation. They're also shooting themselves in the foot, instead of coming to some kind of amicable arrangement they've now accused canonical of a serious crime which will lead to a response to that accusation rather than to a solution that would have been beneficial to all parties. If yo…

??? I'd hardly call "sold someone else's game without permission or royalties for a year" a "mistake".

And Canonical did it because they desperately needed the money, or just because they are plain evil?

Re: Ed McMillen: Ubuntu Store Sold Super Meat Boy Without Permission, Has Yet To Pay

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Post by VMG » Sun, Dec 23, 2012, 2:55 PM UTC

I thought piracy is cool now? Oh wait, it's only cool when the underdog does it. Nevermind.

Re: Ed McMillen: Ubuntu Store Sold Super Meat Boy Without Permission, Has Yet To Pay

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Post by frujka » Sun, Dec 23, 2012, 3:00 PM UTC

jacquesm wrote: post #2

Pirates is way too heavy a term here. Canonical is large enough and the issue muddy enough that I don't think this is a warranted accusation. They're also shooting themselves in the foot, instead of coming to some kind of amicable arrangement they've now accused canonical of a serious crime which will lead to a response to that accusation rather than to a solution that would have been beneficial to all parties. If yo…

Pirates is wrongly re appropriated term, but it certainly fits better to a company selling something belong to someone else without an agreement and keeping all the money than say someone downloading an audio track to preview it before buying if it's good enough (and available enough at a reasonable price).

Anyways there's no mention of piracy in the original statement. It was not intended publicity, it's not as if they made a press release or something, it's just the answer to a question asked to the guy on a website that got picked up.

Here are the original posts: http://www.formspring.me/EdmundM/q/406941407635331564 http://www.formspring.me/EdmundM/q/406945771976419136 http://www.formspring.me/EdmundM/q/406960226210700795

These depicts a whole different situation than the one you seem to have grasped from the kotaku sensationalism.

Re: Ed McMillen: Ubuntu Store Sold Super Meat Boy Without Permission, Has Yet To Pay

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Post by rplnt » Sun, Dec 23, 2012, 3:03 PM UTC

VMG wrote: post #42

I thought piracy is cool now? Oh wait, it's only cool when the underdog does it. Nevermind.

It's sometimes cool even when big company does it for profit (Megaupload).

Re: Ed McMillen: Ubuntu Store Sold Super Meat Boy Without Permission, Has Yet To Pay

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Post by frujka » Sun, Dec 23, 2012, 3:07 PM UTC

shardling wrote: post #13

SquareWheel wrote: post #8

Please just link directly to the FormSpring rather than the blogified version. It gives all the relevant info. http://www.formspring.me/EdmundM/q/406945771976419136

No, it doesn't. The "blogified" version also links to some related tweets that add some important context. Of course someone interested enough could cobble everything together themselves, but the whole point of linking to a secondary source is to let someone else do the synthesis.

Erm, it only quotes one tweet from the other dev that actually doesn't add anything at all by saying that they still didn't get paid which was implied.

It also had (it's been silently rewritten) an outrageously sensationalist title and lack context and follow up you have in the original source.

Re: Ed McMillen: Ubuntu Store Sold Super Meat Boy Without Permission, Has Yet To Pay

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Post by frujka » Sun, Dec 23, 2012, 3:07 PM UTC

chris_wot wrote: post #3

Time to lawyer up!

Nope. http://www.formspring.me/EdmundM/q/406960226210700795

Re: Ed McMillen: Ubuntu Store Sold Super Meat Boy Without Permission, Has Yet To Pay

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Post by frujka » Sun, Dec 23, 2012, 3:12 PM UTC

brador wrote: post #25

ma2000 wrote: post #18

While watching the video/trailer for the most recent Humble Bundle, I was put off by the games this time around. The one mentioned in this article for example, looked like a basic Flash game. So as an outsider to this indie gaming world, I can understand why they might have superficially rejected it - it's probably a great game if you give it a chance. Just thought that someone should point this out because the comme…

I blame the THQ bundle. Seriously, all that awesome for just a $1 minimum. After that all these previously amazing indie games just look like flash toys.

The THQ bundle was but an attempt to boost the stock value of the company by showing people had interest in the games before filing for bankruptcy.

It was real real sub par in comparison of other bundles, it was crippled by being windows only and steam only on linux, it had no bonus content and didn't feature anything fresh. Also developers of those games mostly didn't see a dime of this.

Re: Ed McMillen: Ubuntu Store Sold Super Meat Boy Without Permission, Has Yet To Pay

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Post by frujka » Sun, Dec 23, 2012, 3:15 PM UTC

ma2000 wrote: post #18

While watching the video/trailer for the most recent Humble Bundle, I was put off by the games this time around. The one mentioned in this article for example, looked like a basic Flash game. So as an outsider to this indie gaming world, I can understand why they might have superficially rejected it - it's probably a great game if you give it a chance. Just thought that someone should point this out because the comme…

Actually you don't, according to david pitkin it's the lack of age restriction in the ubuntu store that cause this game to be rejected.

Here's the quote:

Hi Edmund, let's figure the confusion out as soon as possible. There were some crossed wires with the Humble Indie Bundle 5 launch and Super Meat Boy plus the lack of age restrictions in the Ubuntu App Store for Issac but nothing more I thought : (

David Pitkin,Director of Consumer Applications at Canonical.

Re: Ed McMillen: Ubuntu Store Sold Super Meat Boy Without Permission, Has Yet To Pay

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Post by frujka » Sun, Dec 23, 2012, 3:17 PM UTC

hdra wrote: post #28

brador wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I blame the THQ bundle. Seriously, all that awesome for just a $1 minimum. After that all these previously amazing indie games just look like flash toys.

They are still amazing though. especially Dungeon Defenders with its DLCs. :)

Which sadly happens to be buggy under linux

Re: Ed McMillen: Ubuntu Store Sold Super Meat Boy Without Permission, Has Yet To Pay

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Post by dkersten » Sun, Dec 23, 2012, 3:22 PM UTC

ma2000 wrote: post #18

While watching the video/trailer for the most recent Humble Bundle, I was put off by the games this time around. The one mentioned in this article for example, looked like a basic Flash game. So as an outsider to this indie gaming world, I can understand why they might have superficially rejected it - it's probably a great game if you give it a chance. Just thought that someone should point this out because the comme…

Binding of Isaac is a fantastic game. The theme may be a bit strange and the graphics aren't anything special (though I do feel the graphics suit the gameplay), but the gameplay is top notch. In fact, I bought this bundle specifically for the Binding of Isaac DLC.

Machinarium was a flash game too and yet it is still a great game. Being a flash game doesn't necessarily mean the game is not any good. I do understand what you mean though - if it looks like a basic flash game, then perhaps its as shallow as the masses of flash games you can find on the web, but in this case its simply not the case.