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Re: Keep Our Servers Running

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Post by eis »

ThePowerOfFuet wrote: post #68
klamann wrote: post #50

Does the Internet Archive have any options to donate from the EU so I can get a donation receipt from a EU based non-profit? I know there is the "Internet Archive Europe", but that seems to be a Wikimedia like thing, i.e. they don't collect funds for the IA but for whatever it is they are doing here (which is not archiving websites for some reason?).

Send EUR via SEPA transfer to GB74RBOS16107510000470. (Yes, the page only mentions wire transfer, but SEPA transfers work too, are faster, and cost everyone less.) Source: https://help.archive.org/help/how-do-i-make-a-wire-transfer/

Making a wire transfer is easy, but can it be deducted from taxes? That's the tricky part.

Re: Keep Our Servers Running

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Post by 0xDEAFBEAD »

ssl-3 wrote: post #81
AnthonyMouse wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Maybe the matching-funds donor is all peachy and clean. Maybe they're the root of all evil. If they were the root of all evil then shouldn't you want to donate even more, to increase the amount of money they donate to the non-profit and reduce the amount they have left for their evil doings?

Not necessarily, no. Evil has no boundaries.

"Evil has no boundaries."

Pseudo-profound statements on my HN?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WDFXJZabt5s

Re: Keep Our Servers Running

#93

Post by w4yai »

theletterf wrote: post #53

Be careful: paying with Google Pay is extremely easy and the default setting is monthly recurrence. If you're not logged in, the only way to cancel (as far as I know) is by sending an email, which is incredibly precarious.

You can go to play store subscriptions and cancel there right ?

Re: Keep Our Servers Running

#94

Post by spider-mario »

TekMol wrote: post #40

I still don't get how copying copyrighted content to your own website and then asking for donations can be a legal business model. Nor how it can be morally justified. I get that many people like such an archive to be around for consumption. Me too. But, keeping emotions aside, I can't find a justification to violate the rights of creators. I'm sure many people here will have the knee-jerk reaction to immediately dow…

“your own website and then asking for donations […] business model” make it sound as if it’s for profit, which it isn’t.

Re: Keep Our Servers Running

#95

Post by klamann »

ThePowerOfFuet wrote: post #68
klamann wrote: post #50

Does the Internet Archive have any options to donate from the EU so I can get a donation receipt from a EU based non-profit? I know there is the "Internet Archive Europe", but that seems to be a Wikimedia like thing, i.e. they don't collect funds for the IA but for whatever it is they are doing here (which is not archiving websites for some reason?).

Send EUR via SEPA transfer to GB74RBOS16107510000470. (Yes, the page only mentions wire transfer, but SEPA transfers work too, are faster, and cost everyone less.) Source: https://help.archive.org/help/how-do-i-make-a-wire-transfer/

there would still be fees for a wire transfer from a EU bank to this bank in the US, right? And I wouldn't get a donation receipt that would be accepted by the tax man over here anyway.

Re: Keep Our Servers Running

#96

Post by theletterf »

w4yai wrote: post #93
theletterf wrote: post #53

Be careful: paying with Google Pay is extremely easy and the default setting is monthly recurrence. If you're not logged in, the only way to cancel (as far as I know) is by sending an email, which is incredibly precarious.

You can go to play store subscriptions and cancel there right ?

Not if Google Pay has been used as the transaction agent. It's not a Google Play subscription.

Re: Keep Our Servers Running

#97

Post by theletterf »

eis wrote: post #86
theletterf wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, you can't if you paid using a debit card, like I did. Silly me.

Debit cards can do chargebacks just as credit cards can do. That's a feature of Visa and Mastercard (and others). If your bank refuses, complain to the card network. Oh and consider changing banks, that's really unacceptable in 2026 and shows an anti customer stance.

They do, but require that an incident is raised claiming fraud, etc. I guess they want to avoid misuse of this feature.

Re: Keep Our Servers Running

#98

Post by 47282847 »

eis wrote: post #91
ThePowerOfFuet wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Send EUR via SEPA transfer to GB74RBOS16107510000470. (Yes, the page only mentions wire transfer, but SEPA transfers work too, are faster, and cost everyone less.) Source: https://help.archive.org/help/how-do-i-make-a-wire-transfer/

Making a wire transfer is easy, but can it be deducted from taxes? That's the tricky part.

No it can’t. Even across Europe it is not a given that the local tax authorities will easily accept the receipt. Charity law is national.

Re: Keep Our Servers Running

#99

Post by pjc50 »

TekMol wrote: post #40

I still don't get how copying copyrighted content to your own website and then asking for donations can be a legal business model. Nor how it can be morally justified. I get that many people like such an archive to be around for consumption. Me too. But, keeping emotions aside, I can't find a justification to violate the rights of creators. I'm sure many people here will have the knee-jerk reaction to immediately dow…

The legal justification is that it's a library. This does actually seem to work for them in general, although they badly overstepped with books and lost in court.

Any creator-based outrage should be directed first and foremost at the for-profit violations by AI companies, rather than the small volunteer service which is keeping history up.

Ultimately there is no archiving without piracy. The alternative is for the web to exist in an eternal present where everything vanishes the moment some business decides it's not worth it or conflicts with current corporate values.

Re: Keep Our Servers Running

#100

Post by hk__2 »

TekMol wrote: post #40

I still don't get how copying copyrighted content to your own website and then asking for donations can be a legal business model. Nor how it can be morally justified. I get that many people like such an archive to be around for consumption. Me too. But, keeping emotions aside, I can't find a justification to violate the rights of creators. I'm sure many people here will have the knee-jerk reaction to immediately dow…

It’s a non-profit that archives publicly-accessible content. If it were a for-profit (Google snippets, LLMs) I’d understand your question, but since it doesn’t profit from it I don’t see the issue.
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