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Re: Nitter and XCancel resume service after legal advice

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Post by protocolture »

echelon wrote: post #131
moolcool wrote: post #111

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Anyone remember back in the day when every platform had RSS feeds, and you could aggregate your Facebook and Twitter on sites like FriendFeed? “Embrace, Extend, Extinguish”

Google and Facebook fucked up the internet. The internet we had in the 90's and early 00's was amazing. Everything felt free, indie, hackable, composable, ingestible. You didn't worry about platforms because most platforms exposed their data via friendly APIs (remember when Reddit and Twitter had an API and that they encouraged people to actually use them?) RSS everywhere, websites with honest to god Bittorrent links…

I really want them both atomised. Not sold for parts. Not reconstituted into smaller monopolies. Not state owned. Just like, delete both businesses and push their physical assets into a dry lakebed and blow them up.

And then remove all copyright law and patents pertaining to software. So the subsequent players are forced to play nice with everyone.

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Post by byoogle »

antman wrote: post #318
byoogle wrote: post #317

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Agent First is the name of my startup ( https://agentfirst.dev/ ), which mostly does what you described. :-)

Whats a credit?

In general, a successful web request costs 1 credit: https://doc.agentfirst.dev/endpoints/pricing

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Post by davkan »

archon810 wrote: post #303
gblargg wrote: post #299

Door 1: try to take down sites offering a lite version that people prefer over x.com. Door 2: improve x.com to be better than third-party sites. Which is, Elon?

To be fair, I don't think X could ever satisfy many of the users seeking Nitter services simply by definition.

I never bothered with nitter until elon made the site unusable for people not signed in. If he undid the changes and then sold the company I’d probably a bother to update the url the next time my nitter redirects stopped working.

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Post by wraptile »

LatticeAnimal wrote: post #56
psolidgold wrote: post #38

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Serious comment: I wonder how this dynamic will change when AI has some real legal chops. One could spin up agents that could sift through all the BS discovery docs and correspondence they send to waste time and money. The agents could presumably even file the necessary paperwork on your behalf. Obviously not a lawyer, just food for thought.

Unserious comment: The big company will spin up swarms of agents whose job is to overwhelm your AI agents with legal requests / correspondence, still with the goal of making you run out of money (but now via AI spend).

but clearly there is diminishing returns on spend here right? Assuming that tokens will get cheap enough then once we both spend 10,000$ no one's is getting more advantage because both LLMs exhaust all effective paths hitting high rates of diminishing returns making further attack investments mostly void.

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Post by charcircuit »

koyote wrote: post #231
progval wrote: post #152

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Paris' subway and local train lines each have a Twitter account, and they are the only reliable source of information regarding outages. Phone apps (at least three official ones with different data sources!) and websites can be outdated. Displays in station too (though less often), have outages of their own, and (rarely) even incorrect updates.

It almost seems like we need laws that information about public services have to be available on a public website (as opposed to a third-party website that requires registration). I personally do not know anyone in real life with a twitter account (although I have one, I have not used it in over 15 years), I wonder how many people just go without this information and are angry that it's (seemingly) not available.

X is a public site. Anyone is free to make an account.

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Post by dijit »

OroPla wrote: post #145
dijit wrote: post #122

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Network effects are really powerful . Same reason at least one person in your company has a windows machine with a copy of excel, even though its a locked in platform which is paid and opaque: its what everyone else uses.

That doesn't really explain why people went there, only why they stay. I remember back in 2006 when Twitter was new and I still couldn't figure out why anyone wanted to use it. So I never did, to this day.

i signed up because everyone was there… therefore i also likely reinforced that feeling in others too.

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Post by weiran »

drannex wrote: post #248
coalstartprob4 wrote: post #190

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atrpoto is great technology but disappointing communities most people in bluesky moved to bluesky driven by hate and fear instead of love and curiosity i notice they talk bad a lot about other people's posts in other platforms

Echo chamber strikes again, because I see none of that, just love for knowledge, history, and science.

Try posting anything even mildly positive about AI on Bluesky and you’ll experience instant hate.

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Post by HDBaseT »

numpad0 wrote: post #288
mitxela wrote: post #251

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Elon abandoned that trademark, it's up for grabs according to the law, even though a court didn't think so.

That means not even the court cares what Elon says anymore.

Not what that means, at least not on a general basis.

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Post by gloosx »

uhoh-itsmaciek wrote: post #227
gloosx wrote: post #177

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In this case it seems that linking to the CHP website would likely crash their web servers. Understandable:)

So allowing projects like Nitter and XCancel must also be understandable, in order for recipients to be able to actually read these messages.

100% agreed, auth-walling the broadcasting service which is de-facto used as a public infrastructure by so many parties around the world is just straight an a-hole move, even though it's a private company and they can do whatever they want about it. Who knows maybe at some point in the future they will decide twitter will only be available with a paid subscription.

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Post by progval »

smcin wrote: post #280
progval wrote: post #152

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Paris' subway and local train lines each have a Twitter account, and they are the only reliable source of information regarding outages. Phone apps (at least three official ones with different data sources!) and websites can be outdated. Displays in station too (though less often), have outages of their own, and (rarely) even incorrect updates.

Doesn't their own Île-de-France Mobilités app have reliable information on outages? Surely it's more reliable than their Twitter account?

It's the one I use the most, but in my experience it's lagging behind the Twitter accounts. It's also noisy because it puts last-minute outages at the same level as minor month-long schedule change (which can't be dismissed), so some lines (eg. line R) are almost always displayed as having issues.
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