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Ed McMillen: Ubuntu Store Sold Super Meat Boy Without Permission, Has Yet To Pay

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Re: Ed McMillen: Ubuntu Store Sold Super Meat Boy Without Permission, Has Yet To Pay

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Post by smosher »

hdra wrote: post #29
smosher wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pirates is way too heavy a term here. This is for-profit and closer to true piracy than file sharing is. It could be unintentional, but if they've already been contacted about it they really should be quicker to resolve the situation. They're also shooting themselves in the foot, No surprise there, see http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/1641/itsfinetrustme.png for an example of the judgment they've shown.

what was that? an exploit in the SMB game?

Yep. MySQL credentials in the binary.

Re: Ed McMillen: Ubuntu Store Sold Super Meat Boy Without Permission, Has Yet To Pay

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Post by megablast »

chris_wot wrote: post #4
jacquesm wrote: post #2

Pirates is way too heavy a term here. Canonical is large enough and the issue muddy enough that I don't think this is a warranted accusation. They're also shooting themselves in the foot, instead of coming to some kind of amicable arrangement they've now accused canonical of a serious crime which will lead to a response to that accusation rather than to a solution that would have been beneficial to all parties. If yo…

??? I'd hardly call "sold someone else's game without permission or royalties for a year" a "mistake".

Really? What is someone else pretended to have created the game, and uploaded it to the store?

Would Canonical have made a mistake then?

Re: Ed McMillen: Ubuntu Store Sold Super Meat Boy Without Permission, Has Yet To Pay

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Post by smosher »

raverbashing wrote: post #30
smosher wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pirates is way too heavy a term here. This is for-profit and closer to true piracy than file sharing is. It could be unintentional, but if they've already been contacted about it they really should be quicker to resolve the situation. They're also shooting themselves in the foot, No surprise there, see http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/1641/itsfinetrustme.png for an example of the judgment they've shown.

Here's a lesson, never trust user input! This is not the first time, and not the last time either. (I'm waiting for the posts saying they should be using PostgreSQL)

(I'm waiting for the posts saying they should be using PostgreSQL)

I'm not that guy, but I've always liked Postgres.

Re: Ed McMillen: Ubuntu Store Sold Super Meat Boy Without Permission, Has Yet To Pay

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Post by lutze »

hdra wrote: post #29
smosher wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pirates is way too heavy a term here. This is for-profit and closer to true piracy than file sharing is. It could be unintentional, but if they've already been contacted about it they really should be quicker to resolve the situation. They're also shooting themselves in the foot, No surprise there, see http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/1641/itsfinetrustme.png for an example of the judgment they've shown.

what was that? an exploit in the SMB game?

From what I recall of the story, the login for SMB's level database was stored in plaintext in the exe.

That picture is the guy who found it telling the devs, and the devs not understanding why it's a problem.

Cue their database being "hacked" a short while later... and another internet meme is born!

Re: Ed McMillen: Ubuntu Store Sold Super Meat Boy Without Permission, Has Yet To Pay

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Post by matthuggins »

SquareWheel wrote: post #8

Please just link directly to the FormSpring rather than the blogified version. It gives all the relevant info. http://www.formspring.me/EdmundM/q/406945771976419136

Dude looks really freakin' high.

http://www.formspring.me/EdmundM/picture

Re: Ed McMillen: Ubuntu Store Sold Super Meat Boy Without Permission, Has Yet To Pay

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Post by Fargren »

brokenparser wrote: post #24
ma2000 wrote: post #18

While watching the video/trailer for the most recent Humble Bundle, I was put off by the games this time around. The one mentioned in this article for example, looked like a basic Flash game. So as an outsider to this indie gaming world, I can understand why they might have superficially rejected it - it's probably a great game if you give it a chance. Just thought that someone should point this out because the comme…

I gave it several chances and it's a terrible game, it does a great job of annoying the player.

Judging by it's popularity despite the lack of any kind of advertising campaign, I'd say it caters to a kind of player that isn't you, not that it's a terrible game. (Disclaimer: BoI is my favorite game of 2011)

Re: Ed McMillen: Ubuntu Store Sold Super Meat Boy Without Permission, Has Yet To Pay

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Post by masklinn »

pja wrote: post #23
ma2000 wrote: post #18

While watching the video/trailer for the most recent Humble Bundle, I was put off by the games this time around. The one mentioned in this article for example, looked like a basic Flash game. So as an outsider to this indie gaming world, I can understand why they might have superficially rejected it - it's probably a great game if you give it a chance. Just thought that someone should point this out because the comme…

Binding of Isaac was originally written in flash (I think it's since been re-implemented) but don't let that put you off: it's a polished piece of gaming perfection. The theme probably puts some people off, but the underlying mechanics are perfectly judged.

> I think it's since been re-implemented

Nope, it is being reimplemented/rebooted and should be released flashless in 2013, but the current version remains flash-based:

> Edmund McMillen has confirmed that he is working on a remake of the game slated for release in 2013. He states that the primary purpose of the remake will be to take it out of Flash, and use a new engine to help limit the bugs with the game. It will feature completely re-balanced items and enemies, as well as redrawn graphics, possible local co-op support, new items, new enemies, and console support. It was announced that it will come with 2 Player Local Co-Op and will be called The Binding Of Isaac: Rebirth.

Re: Ed McMillen: Ubuntu Store Sold Super Meat Boy Without Permission, Has Yet To Pay

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Post by masklinn »

ma2000 wrote: post #18

While watching the video/trailer for the most recent Humble Bundle, I was put off by the games this time around. The one mentioned in this article for example, looked like a basic Flash game. So as an outsider to this indie gaming world, I can understand why they might have superficially rejected it - it's probably a great game if you give it a chance. Just thought that someone should point this out because the comme…

> The one mentioned in this article for example, looked like a basic Flash game.

Binding of Isaac is a flash game, and is anything but basic (one of the best games of 2011, for all its technical issues).

Re: Ed McMillen: Ubuntu Store Sold Super Meat Boy Without Permission, Has Yet To Pay

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Post by Fargren »

jacquesm wrote: post #2

Pirates is way too heavy a term here. Canonical is large enough and the issue muddy enough that I don't think this is a warranted accusation. They're also shooting themselves in the foot, instead of coming to some kind of amicable arrangement they've now accused canonical of a serious crime which will lead to a response to that accusation rather than to a solution that would have been beneficial to all parties. If yo…

It was not just that they sold his game without paying him (I understand there's more than enough reason to believe this was a regrettable mistake), it's that they claim that he declined to sell his games when in reality they declined to accept them. That makes him look like he's somewhy opposed to Ubuntu, and it is rather bad PR for him. I understand that he tried to get them to stop doing that, and chose to reply to what he saw as PR attack with bad PR instead of legal action (which probably would have made him look even worse). I don't think it was a very level headed decision, but I don't think what he's doing is wrong.

Re: Ed McMillen: Ubuntu Store Sold Super Meat Boy Without Permission, Has Yet To Pay

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Post by Semaphor »

brador wrote: post #25
ma2000 wrote: post #18

While watching the video/trailer for the most recent Humble Bundle, I was put off by the games this time around. The one mentioned in this article for example, looked like a basic Flash game. So as an outsider to this indie gaming world, I can understand why they might have superficially rejected it - it's probably a great game if you give it a chance. Just thought that someone should point this out because the comme…

I blame the THQ bundle. Seriously, all that awesome for just a $1 minimum. After that all these previously amazing indie games just look like flash toys.

That was the only humble bundle I didn't buy. I do not agree with your conclusion at all.
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