Yeah, _no_ Shut ClimateGPT down, apologize and then we can talk about donation.
That is Internet Archive Europe, which is independent from Internet Archive
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#22Yeah, _no_ Shut ClimateGPT down, apologize and then we can talk about donation.
Interesting. How is ClimateGPT linked to archive.org, and why do you object to it?
They're probably reacting to this
https://mastodon.archive.org/@internetarchive/11721950124572...
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
Interesting. How is ClimateGPT linked to archive.org, and why do you object to it?
ClimateGPT is built by Erasmus.AI, which says "Built by Erasmus.AI on behalf of the ClimateGPT Foundation, and supported by the Internet Archive Europe,". Brewster Kahle, Internet Archive founder (and board chair), is on the board of Erasmus.AI. It does seem weird to rattle the donation box because hosting costs are going up while shooting money at the prime cause of hosting costs going up.
They are independent organizations with separate funding.
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#24I do like the Internet Archive but I wish I could retrieve large segments from it myself. It has very aggressive 429s. It would be a nice higher donor tier feature. Maybe it’s not possible to do so and retain 501c3 status? Regardless I have had to start performing personal datahoarding. C’est la vie.
They posted on X about supporting this when someone was spamming them with requests
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#25THere's also archive.today who does great user-directed archiving. We don't appreciate this infrastructure some random guy runs enough. It's annoying how often archive.org blocks sites but they both complement each other very well. https://liberapay.com/archiveis/donate https://coindrop.to/archive When finding archive.today's Monero donation address just now, I had to use archive.org because donatemonero.org [1] is d…
Um. You mean the same site that uses its captcha page to DDOS sites the owner doesn't agree with, and was banned from use on Wikipedia because the owner was modifying the archived pages? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archive.today#2026_attack_on_G... I don't think we should be supporting this random guy, no.
And archive.org removes perfectly legal content from their accessible archives. Nobody's perfect. The guy running archive.today has done a shit ton of good.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Um. You mean the same site that uses its captcha page to DDOS sites the owner doesn't agree with, and was banned from use on Wikipedia because the owner was modifying the archived pages? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archive.today#2026_attack_on_G... I don't think we should be supporting this random guy, no.
Well then another guy should provide a technically equivalent and morally superior service ;)
I mean, lots of other archive.* sites exist and do the same thing minus problematic behavior, such as archive.is, archive.oh (though maybe some are operated by the same individual...)
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
ClimateGPT is built by Erasmus.AI, which says "Built by Erasmus.AI on behalf of the ClimateGPT Foundation, and supported by the Internet Archive Europe,". Brewster Kahle, Internet Archive founder (and board chair), is on the board of Erasmus.AI. It does seem weird to rattle the donation box because hosting costs are going up while shooting money at the prime cause of hosting costs going up.
They are independent organizations with separate funding.
Brewster Kahle is on IA Europe's board as well (with Daniel Erasmus, whose baby is Erasmus.AI).
I'm sure they have separate bank accounts, but let's not pretend these organizations are independent. They're all run by the same little club of friends.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
ClimateGPT is built by Erasmus.AI, which says "Built by Erasmus.AI on behalf of the ClimateGPT Foundation, and supported by the Internet Archive Europe,". Brewster Kahle, Internet Archive founder (and board chair), is on the board of Erasmus.AI. It does seem weird to rattle the donation box because hosting costs are going up while shooting money at the prime cause of hosting costs going up.
They are independent organizations with separate funding.
then why did the main IA account post about this https://mastodon.archive.org/@internetarchive/11721950124572...
and it's darkly funny how HN downvotes this when every single answer on Mastodon is incredibly negative
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well then another guy should provide a technically equivalent and morally superior service ;)
I mean, lots of other archive.* sites exist and do the same thing minus problematic behavior, such as archive.is, archive.oh (though maybe some are operated by the same individual...)
Are any of those not run by the archive.today guy? That site has like a dozen aliases.
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#30I do like the Internet Archive but I wish I could retrieve large segments from it myself. It has very aggressive 429s. It would be a nice higher donor tier feature. Maybe it’s not possible to do so and retain 501c3 status? Regardless I have had to start performing personal datahoarding. C’est la vie.
I wonder if they could sell you access to a bittorrent tracker? Officially it would be independent of the donations, just an extra service they sell?
They have torrent downloads for a lot of content, I've downloaded almost a terabyte from them via torrent, they're just not bundled, as in you would need to retrieve each torrent file for each item individually, which might still get you a 429 if you automated it idk.
I've never actually got a 429 using a browser though personally, they do throttle aggressively though