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> at least in crypto there is a token you can sell That would defeat the purpose. The goal is to make scraping costly, not profitable.
I guess it could in principle be profitable for the website, not the client?
It's wild to me that PoW systems are how we sort the bot problem... the bummer is that all this "work" is just wasted cycles, at least in crypto there is a token you can sell.
> at least in crypto there is a token you can sell That would defeat the purpose. The goal is to make scraping costly, not profitable.
But, in this world, the website owner would receive tokens that they can then use to do whatever they want, including paying for servers and bandwidth. This is the sense in which the cycles aren’t wasted: the website owner now has cash to spend.
Effectively, both scrapers and ordinary users would be paying for the privilege of getting website bytes.
This also solves the problem of having to wait for your phone to solve the challenge while you’re browsing: you can buy or mine some tokens ahead of time and pay them as soon as challenged. So can the scrapers, but because they’re accessing enormous numbers of pages it’s hopefully prohibitively expensive for them.
It would be cool if the POW could be done ahead of time. That way I don't get stuck waiting while I'm working. Some type of credit/tokens that my browser could then spend.
See also: https://github.com/eternal-flame-AD/pow-buster - Browser extension that already used WASM to accelerate the anubis solver, among others. https://github.com/kasper93/anubis_webgpu - Browser extension that uses webgpu, for another order-of-magnitude speedup (depending on your GPU of course).
Lmao yeah no. I don't think a little argon2 is going to change shit all.
I mean the thesis of Anubis itself is "scrappers are compute limited (in ways that consumer devices are not)" which has its own massive flaws.
It's wild to me that PoW systems are how we sort the bot problem... the bummer is that all this "work" is just wasted cycles, at least in crypto there is a token you can sell.
> at least in crypto there is a token you can sell That would defeat the purpose. The goal is to make scraping costly, not profitable.
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Perhaps understanding why it exists is a good start, as opposed to flinging childish language around.
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Perhaps understanding why it exists is a good start, as opposed to flinging childish language around.
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You sound like a child throwing a tantrum. Before throwing around insults calling people post-teenager, you should maybe look at your own behavior. Is adult behavior getting angry to the point of swearing because you saw a cartoon character?
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> at least in crypto there is a token you can sell That would defeat the purpose. The goal is to make scraping costly, not profitable.
Sure, then just replace it with something that is useful to society but not immediately profitable to a scraper, like science research