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An Alien Mind

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Re: An Alien Mind

#182

> getting the AI to “try to do the right thing” by human standards. Are these scientists really this hideously naive? If only Stanislaw Lem was alive to adequately dramatize the absurd, childish simplicity of these technicians.

> Are these scientists really this hideously naive?

Yes, because who else would have chosen to remain in this job?

Re: An Alien Mind

#183

> Delivering the benefits of scientific progress and economic growth that very intelligent machines enable. I think we're very close to the point where AI-driven breakthroughs outside of pure math and software start to really affect the world. We evaluated GPT-6 Astra in 100 complex, unsaturated multi-agent coding environments, competing and cooperating with other models in open-ended tasks. It's the new frontier mod…

Incredible... software engineers will be joining the breadline soon as managers, executives and PMs take over deliverables. The world will look very different on Jan 1st 2027.

It's not like managers and executives and PM's are the only people who can prompt an AI. And experienced software developer will be much more effective at using an AI to generate code compared to someone who isn't. So why would we expect the former in the breadline and the latter not?

If anything, I'd be more concerned about the leadership team being out in the cold. Why do I need a PM, or a manager, or a CEO if I can ship products myself?

Re: An Alien Mind

#184
“Another cringe marketing piece from OpenAI, here we go” I thought.

Scrolling down, I see “teaching machines to love.” It did not disappoint.

Re: An Alien Mind

#185
post #76

One of my favorite things to do with these blog posts is to imagine an Alien Museum on the Remains of Humanity, and wonder what the little text flyouts and commentary on the screenshot of this one might say. Some ideas: "Despite a nuanced view of the complexities of what lay ahead, humanity found itself collectively unable to stop the process it had set in motion." "Despite significant progress on the mechanisms of a…

"the humans thought their singularity wasn't just another blind god to worship: surprise, just another golden calf"

Re: An Alien Mind

#186
post #180
post #76

One of my favorite things to do with these blog posts is to imagine an Alien Museum on the Remains of Humanity, and wonder what the little text flyouts and commentary on the screenshot of this one might say. Some ideas: "Despite a nuanced view of the complexities of what lay ahead, humanity found itself collectively unable to stop the process it had set in motion." "Despite significant progress on the mechanisms of a…

They were made entirely of meat.

https://terrybisson.com/theyre-made-out-of-meat-2/

Re: An Alien Mind

#187
post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I want to believe that humanity is trending towards a good outcome here All the trends so far are towards a nightmarish hyper-capitalist end game. None of the AI leadership is trustworthy, and they openly discuss how they are willing to sacrifice everything humans cherish to have a shot at reaching their envisioned utopia (which would be the most obvious dystopia for anyone else)

I'm not really worried about the labs, it's misaligned governments that keep me up at night. ASI landing during the current administration is not ideal. I also would prefer to avoid needing to indoctrinate myself in Xi Jinping Thought.

>>> I'm not really worried about the labs, it's misaligned governments that keep me up at night.

So make government smaller, and make sure people are more able to tell the government to go away.

Re: An Alien Mind

#188
Alignment when machining a metal part is clear and measurable. Aligning an AI to benefit humanity has an ironic foundation, which is that very few humans have ever truly been aligned, and those who approximated true alignment likely had moments of not being aligned. We are trying to build something more perfect than us, and we may become extremely lucky but maybe not.

Re: An Alien Mind

#189
post #49
post #37

> The strongest argument I see for continuing to train much smarter models quickly is the need to build defensive systems against the dangers posed by other AI. So the best argument for AI is that it's an arms race. We have to keep pushing every boundary because in any case others will, and we will need to defend against them. If this statement is true, then this particular researchers believes the open source Chines…

Yep. Such a disgusting industry. They created the arm race, push for the arm race, put themselves in position to benefit from the arm race

The arms race is an intrinsic game theoretical property of a multi-adversarial-actor scenario involving exponential growth of a universally potent technology. It's almost certainly winner-take-all, on a global scale, which behooves everyone to participate.

And no, I don't think it will end well.

Re: An Alien Mind

#190
post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Collectively, humans aren't aligned, and don't build aligned systems. Humans have a concept of alignment, and multiple traditions, practices, and systems that aggressively oppose it. Why would AI be any different?

Humans had multiple occasions to press the 'launch a nuclear holocaust' button and... they didn't. I'd expect aligned AIs to also not press it even when it'd be rational to do so according to their instructions - then work from there.

In what scenario would it be rational to unleash complete and utter permanent nuclear destruction of all life (including artificial) life on earth?
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