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Finder is so frustrating and has been since day one

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Re: Finder is so frustrating and has been since day one

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Post by SwellJoe »

nottorp wrote: post #34
SwellJoe wrote: post #24

My most recent laptop purchase was a Macbook Pro, because the price/performance is just so lopsided with the price of memory pushing everything up to Apple-like prices, it didn't make sense to buy an x86 laptop. But, coming from Linux it's a miserable user experience. I genuinely hate macOS. Every time I use it, I'm surprised by some weird thing about it, some limitation, some annoyance, some weird bug. Installing so…

Maybe because you can open a terminal, do port install mc and then ignore the Finder most of the time :)

I do most of my work in the terminal, so the Finder is less of an issue than it would be otherwise. I like for the desktop environment to be nice, but I don't necessarily need it for much more than managing the browser and terminal windows most of the time. But, the weird layout of the filesystem and more limited terminal environment on macOS is also uncomfortable. In some cases, it's merely different rather than worse, but the overall experience for me is notably less comfortable than Linux.

Re: Finder is so frustrating and has been since day one

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Post by wrs »

SwellJoe wrote: post #24

My most recent laptop purchase was a Macbook Pro, because the price/performance is just so lopsided with the price of memory pushing everything up to Apple-like prices, it didn't make sense to buy an x86 laptop. But, coming from Linux it's a miserable user experience. I genuinely hate macOS. Every time I use it, I'm surprised by some weird thing about it, some limitation, some annoyance, some weird bug. Installing so…

“Weird for the sake of being weird”…you know Finder existed first, right?

Re: Finder is so frustrating and has been since day one

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Post by peanball »

maltch wrote: post #39
muppetman wrote: post #28

As a Windows user for years until 2 years ago, I can’t believe how unusable finder is. It’s just terrible. I feel like it actively hides the filesystem from you at every turn. Windows was bad but at least Explorer (windows 10 version anyway) let you easily SEE the file system I’m sure as hell not buying a subscription project to fix that though lololol

Explorer is a much better tool than Finder. Couldn't agree more.

And yet copying multiple large files from or to the same disk grinds the throughput to a halt on Windows where Finder keeps up close to theoretical bandwidth in sum.

Re: Finder is so frustrating and has been since day one

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Post by neilalexander »

stack_framer wrote: post #40

This looks cool, but my least favorite things about Finder are not actually related to finding things. I prefer column mode, but: 1. When I right click, I can't create a new file of any kind. I can create a new folder—sometimes (see the next point). 2. If the folder is full, it's virtually impossible to right-click an empty spot to create a new folder. You have to scroll all the way to the top/bottom and right click…

Regarding 2, use the File menu in the menubar.

Re: Finder is so frustrating and has been since day one

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Post by re »

gkoberger wrote: post #22
Lt_Riza_Hawkeye wrote: post #6

Finder is frustrating but this guy is just complaining about the fact that he's unable to organize his own files into directories in a way that lets him find them later. He then calls himself a power user. Finder even has tags to help with this, which is more than most operating systems get

I understand your point, but "Finder" does make it harder to organize things. When you save, they hide away folder browser by default, make it really difficult to navigate to different folders, and push for a "just hit save and search for it later!" mentality. I agree you can overcome this, but you find yourself fighting against macOS a bit to do it. (Also, I'm surprised nobody's mentioned this isn't a blog post... i…

I don't know where you get "really difficult" and "fighting against macOS" from. You only have to hit the disclosure arrow next to "Where" in the save dialog one time and it remembers it and shows it by default from then on. (Okay, maybe it's once per app? I don't remember for sure, but I can't remember the last time the save panel didn't show me the folder browser by default.)

Re: Finder is so frustrating and has been since day one

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Post by [deleted] »

wrs wrote: post #62
SwellJoe wrote: post #24

My most recent laptop purchase was a Macbook Pro, because the price/performance is just so lopsided with the price of memory pushing everything up to Apple-like prices, it didn't make sense to buy an x86 laptop. But, coming from Linux it's a miserable user experience. I genuinely hate macOS. Every time I use it, I'm surprised by some weird thing about it, some limitation, some annoyance, some weird bug. Installing so…

“Weird for the sake of being weird”…you know Finder existed first , right?

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Re: Finder is so frustrating and has been since day one

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Post by muppetman »

hirvi74 wrote: post #60
muppetman wrote: post #28

As a Windows user for years until 2 years ago, I can’t believe how unusable finder is. It’s just terrible. I feel like it actively hides the filesystem from you at every turn. Windows was bad but at least Explorer (windows 10 version anyway) let you easily SEE the file system I’m sure as hell not buying a subscription project to fix that though lololol

What do you mean by "see the file system?" It's not exactly hard to enable in Finder. In Finder's settings, one can have the root directory, home directory, etc. enabled in the sidebar. Not to mention, one can easily drag & drop common folders into the sidebar too. Those settings with the hierarchy view makes seeing the file system quite clear in my opinion.

So I’m in Microsoft Word. I hit the open file button and get the finder chooser window thing. I want to go up one level.

How??

I’m sure there’s some magical key combination to do it but I can never remember it.

That’s the first thing I can think off atop my head.

I’ve never played in Finder settings. Do I have to do that to get something useable? I didn’t even know it had settings it doesn’t seem like the sort of app that should.

Re: Finder is so frustrating and has been since day one

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Post by classichasclass »

muppetman wrote: post #67
hirvi74 wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean by "see the file system?" It's not exactly hard to enable in Finder. In Finder's settings, one can have the root directory, home directory, etc. enabled in the sidebar. Not to mention, one can easily drag & drop common folders into the sidebar too. Those settings with the hierarchy view makes seeing the file system quite clear in my opinion.

So I’m in Microsoft Word. I hit the open file button and get the finder chooser window thing. I want to go up one level. How?? I’m sure there’s some magical key combination to do it but I can never remember it. That’s the first thing I can think off atop my head. I’ve never played in Finder settings. Do I have to do that to get something useable? I didn’t even know it had settings it doesn’t seem like the sort of app…

Click on the drop down at the top of the Open window (where the name of the current folder is displayed) and you get the whole path to choose from.

Re: Finder is so frustrating and has been since day one

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Post by scubbo »

hirvi74 wrote: post #60
muppetman wrote: post #28

As a Windows user for years until 2 years ago, I can’t believe how unusable finder is. It’s just terrible. I feel like it actively hides the filesystem from you at every turn. Windows was bad but at least Explorer (windows 10 version anyway) let you easily SEE the file system I’m sure as hell not buying a subscription project to fix that though lololol

What do you mean by "see the file system?" It's not exactly hard to enable in Finder. In Finder's settings, one can have the root directory, home directory, etc. enabled in the sidebar. Not to mention, one can easily drag & drop common folders into the sidebar too. Those settings with the hierarchy view makes seeing the file system quite clear in my opinion.

Not the person you're replying to, but I assume they're referring to the ability to see something like:

``` src ├── app │ └── page.tsx └── components └── header.tsx ```

EDIT: Lol. I'm not even going to edit it. Hacker News, you also suck.

Re: Finder is so frustrating and has been since day one

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Post by [deleted] »

muppetman wrote: post #67
hirvi74 wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean by "see the file system?" It's not exactly hard to enable in Finder. In Finder's settings, one can have the root directory, home directory, etc. enabled in the sidebar. Not to mention, one can easily drag & drop common folders into the sidebar too. Those settings with the hierarchy view makes seeing the file system quite clear in my opinion.

So I’m in Microsoft Word. I hit the open file button and get the finder chooser window thing. I want to go up one level. How?? I’m sure there’s some magical key combination to do it but I can never remember it. That’s the first thing I can think off atop my head. I’ve never played in Finder settings. Do I have to do that to get something useable? I didn’t even know it had settings it doesn’t seem like the sort of app…

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