Is that what it is using to render and manipulate MS Office documents? That'd explain the poor rendering of some of my files. Bundling all of LibreOffice seems like a pretty huge dependency.
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Re: The ChatGPT/Codex app bundles a full copy of LibreOffice
#282I actually bundle LibreOffice with my app too and the reason is reading files, especially old xls files. Since I'm bundling it I'm now using it for everything docs related but the specific reason is those old files. I couldn't find anything else that I could just drop it and feel confident it'll just read anything I give it.
https://github.com/eigenpal/docx-editor (which I made) is great - since it's OS, the community helps a lot
Re: The ChatGPT/Codex app bundles a full copy of LibreOffice
#283Is that what it is using to render and manipulate MS Office documents? That'd explain the poor rendering of some of my files. Bundling all of LibreOffice seems like a pretty huge dependency.
> Bundling all of LibreOffice seems like a pretty huge dependency What's the alternative library you see?
Re: The ChatGPT/Codex app bundles a full copy of LibreOffice
#284Earlier quoted context omitted.
> and you wanted to share it, you could, without any expectation of usage, merely that it might help just one extra person out there Related: how do you think you can attract more people, by setting a restrictive copyleft that some people will use in their spare time or by attracting even corporations with money that will end up committing to a repo that is used in half of the world? Note that I am talking about adop…
Why would I care about attracting more people? Not every piece of software needs a hundred contributors. As long as it works for me and maybe someone else gets use out of it, that's all that's needed in the eyes of the original spirit of the licenses. Stallman just wanted to fix his printer, not continuously work on that code for ten years.
> Not every piece of software needs a hundred contributors
I see it more as a piece of software being feasible to be maintained over time: if it is only me, it is more likely to end up dying soon, if it attracts adoption, it just gets better, more battle-tested, etc. independently of the economic factor.
Re: The ChatGPT/Codex app bundles a full copy of LibreOffice
#285Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Surely "the right thing to do" includes some element of the authors' explicitly stated preferences about how they wish to be treated. It does! And they wish to get donations. There's a button right at the top on the site making that clear. > In this case, they chose -- explicitly -- to NOT require any payment or contribution from anyone. Yes, so what? It is true that they wished to not require payment. That is one…
So.... Since they explicitly chose not to require any payment, there is no moral obligation to pay them. That's the point. Would it be nice? Sure. But "not donating" is also fine. "Donations" are, by definition, entirely voluntary. Whether someone using the software under its proper licensing terms is wealthy, whether you approve of their business model, or other factors are all irrelevant.
> So.... Since they explicitly chose not to require any payment, there is no moral obligation to pay them. That's the point.
Requirements are about legal obligations, not moral ones.
> Would it be nice? Sure. But "not donating" is also fine.
It's in general fine not to donate to libreoffice. But that doesn't extend to 100% of circumstances.
> "Donations" are, by definition, entirely voluntary. Whether someone using the software under its proper licensing terms is wealthy, whether you approve of their business model, or other factors are all irrelevant.
As a third party I can judge someone for not donating based on their circumstances. It's not irrelevant. The moral implications are not part of the definition of donation.
Re: The ChatGPT/Codex app bundles a full copy of LibreOffice
#286Earlier quoted context omitted.
HOW DOES IT WORK FOR YOU PEOPLE?! Istg on windows, I can't get codex app, new chatgpt or chatgpt classic to work without hanging on even a moderately sized chat. I tried all of the different tricks people recommended but that shit just crawls. It was stable at some point, classic that is, but then it started being a laggy mess. I've uninstalled new chatgpt/codex app. I can't access phone chats on it, I can't use the…
Windows has never felt more archaic than now. I can't imagine trying to do work on a Windows machine in the age of LLMs. If there is anything that LLMs are rock solid at these days, it's unix terminal usage.
Ironically, I feel like LLMs have really unlocked Windows work since they all know how to use Powershell and all the weird Windows commands/hacks that you otherwise either wouldn't even know about, or would have to Google every time.
I used to hate working in Windows, but now it feels roughly comparable to Mac (though at the risk of inciting an OS war, I do feel like Linux still beats both out...)