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Finder is so frustrating and has been since day one

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Re: Finder is so frustrating and has been since day one

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Post by GiorgioG »

Lt_Riza_Hawkeye wrote: post #6

Finder is frustrating but this guy is just complaining about the fact that he's unable to organize his own files into directories in a way that lets him find them later. He then calls himself a power user. Finder even has tags to help with this, which is more than most operating systems get

He’s complaining…because he sells a solution to this problem. I hated Finder when I switched to Mac back in 2007. So much so I bought PathFinder. One thing that pissed me off and still does, is when I copy over a folder with the same name, it doesn’t merge the contents, it deletes everything in the existing folder. That’s not what I expected as a Windows user and it still seems like the wrong behavior almost 20 years later. I no longer use PathFinder, it had its own problems and bugs…but in general I find Finder pretty lacking.

Re: Finder is so frustrating and has been since day one

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Post by gkoberger »

Lt_Riza_Hawkeye wrote: post #6

Finder is frustrating but this guy is just complaining about the fact that he's unable to organize his own files into directories in a way that lets him find them later. He then calls himself a power user. Finder even has tags to help with this, which is more than most operating systems get

I understand your point, but "Finder" does make it harder to organize things. When you save, they hide away folder browser by default, make it really difficult to navigate to different folders, and push for a "just hit save and search for it later!" mentality.

I agree you can overcome this, but you find yourself fighting against macOS a bit to do it.

(Also, I'm surprised nobody's mentioned this isn't a blog post... it's an ad. So of course the issues are exaggerated a bit. The ironic part is I don't think the app actually solves the problems mentioned.)

Re: Finder is so frustrating and has been since day one

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Post by mosura »

flyingshelf wrote: post #16
mosura wrote: post #10

The problem with Finder is historic. The classic Mac finder was a work of art, if you are the sort of person that arranges things spatially, but most programmers are not. Hence NeXT created something else which got merged back incoherently into what became OSX. The Risc OS filer remains king, largely because managing windows on Risc OS is much more tolerable.

You didn't read past the title.

You don’t understand words?

Re: Finder is so frustrating and has been since day one

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Post by SwellJoe »

My most recent laptop purchase was a Macbook Pro, because the price/performance is just so lopsided with the price of memory pushing everything up to Apple-like prices, it didn't make sense to buy an x86 laptop. But, coming from Linux it's a miserable user experience. I genuinely hate macOS. Every time I use it, I'm surprised by some weird thing about it, some limitation, some annoyance, some weird bug. Installing software is ridiculous. And, yes, Finder is weird for the sake of being weird.

I simply don't understand how Apple has the reputation it has.

Re: Finder is so frustrating and has been since day one

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Post by maltch »

flyingshelf wrote: post #11

I think you're gonna lose a lot of comments here to the "Finder" word here. The problem is not the Finder but directories, which exist on all operating systems. With that aside, this is a great idea for most files. Of course my images are still in folders with the projects they belong to, but my life photos are in one stream. Files, contacts, a lot of data would benefit greatly from this visualization. As for people…

If you have the time to be focused on folder hierarchy and organization, great. Most of the people I help don't, and I built this for them. In building it, I learned that organizing files wastes much more time than you think. Finding files is all anyone actually needs.

Re: Finder is so frustrating and has been since day one

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Post by muppetman »

As a Windows user for years until 2 years ago, I can’t believe how unusable finder is. It’s just terrible. I feel like it actively hides the filesystem from you at every turn.

Windows was bad but at least Explorer (windows 10 version anyway) let you easily SEE the file system

I’m sure as hell not buying a subscription project to fix that though lololol

Re: Finder is so frustrating and has been since day one

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Post by dkackman11 »

muppetman wrote: post #28

As a Windows user for years until 2 years ago, I can’t believe how unusable finder is. It’s just terrible. I feel like it actively hides the filesystem from you at every turn. Windows was bad but at least Explorer (windows 10 version anyway) let you easily SEE the file system I’m sure as hell not buying a subscription project to fix that though lololol

this

Re: Finder is so frustrating and has been since day one

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Post by bahmboo »

davidee wrote: post #5

Finder is indeed frustrating. "Recent" seems like an attempt to fix this without the need to use some giant camera roll? The (hard) problem is that almost every finder alternative/add-on I've tried is someone else's ideal workflow that still doesn't sit well with me. I find KDE's Dolphin similarly frustrating - for very similar reasons. Both work marginally better (for me) when used in concert with the quick-find too…

If only recent actually worked. I see no rhyme or reason why something gets in recent. I guess finder has to be involved. So often I am working with files between apps, saving and opening and such and the files never appear in recent which defeats the purpose for me.

And then we have the spotlight deamon processes which seem to exist only to burn earth's precious resources.

But when it works it works great. ymmv

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