Here is the State Department's rationale: https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/20...
Basically, far right extremists targeting antifascists through mechanisms of political repression while having the gall to call themselves pro free speech.
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Basically, far right extremists targeting antifascists through mechanisms of political repression while having the gall to call themselves pro free speech.
Why is this downvoted? The regime has openly declared that anti-fascist beliefs are now cause for surveillance, censorship, and persecution. https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/trumps-nspm-7-labels-commo...
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Most of this has me rolling my eyes (“cadre of radical hackers”? really?), but this part is interesting: > The A/I Collective… manually vets all potential users for ideological affinity before granting them access to its infrastructure. What is the truth behind that? Such behaviour would undermine A/I’s claim they are akin to Gmail if they explicitly are not a neutral ISP. After that, it becomes a question of degrees…
This is exactly the problem they ran into. A lot of the state department’s claims of “violent groups” are BS but it also seems like a non-zero number of them are pretty violent organizations. There’s a big difference between “we have designed our devices to be zero-knowledge but we act swiftly against violent/illegal activity if it’s discovered” versus “we actively endorse the views of our user base.”
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... But also, there's no organization called antifa, and no antifa members. It's an accusation levied against people the right wing wants to call terrorists.
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The flag just symbols that this person is against Nazis. Nothing more, nothing less.
It can be held by anyone. Here in Germany, we have (amongst others, just a list of what I have seen) religious Christians (often of Lutheran Protestantism), Marxists, Leninists, Stalinists, other denominations of Communists, Anarchists, Greens, Social Democrats, Antiimperialists, Zionists and sometimes even the occasional Conservatives showing up under the Antifa banner.
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#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
Basically, far right extremists targeting antifascists through mechanisms of political repression while having the gall to call themselves pro free speech.
Why is this downvoted? The regime has openly declared that anti-fascist beliefs are now cause for surveillance, censorship, and persecution. https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/trumps-nspm-7-labels-commo...
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Let me fix that for you. Lots of maga are idealists (even if their ideas are not based in the real world), a number of them are LARPers and a small number are hard core intent on eliminating “the enemy”. To think that no maga member is violent and entertains violent options, is denying reality. Also it’s disingenuous to think they are all out of their minds looking to overthrow the government. Many just have ideals t…
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I mean, this sort of pales in comparison to sanctioning the International Criminal Court, no? They got away with that...
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Like trying to scrutinize the motives of a complete lunatic.
Here’s the thing though: if even some of the examples given in the state department page are true (some of them are rather silly), that A/I knowingly provided services to groups that verifiably did some rather violent things they are accused of, I’m not sure how they expected to hide behind their mission. My impression is that they didn’t say “hey we don’t have customer information but we don’t service violent groups…
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#149Earlier quoted context omitted.
Basically, far right extremists targeting antifascists through mechanisms of political repression while having the gall to call themselves pro free speech.
Why is this downvoted? The regime has openly declared that anti-fascist beliefs are now cause for surveillance, censorship, and persecution. https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/trumps-nspm-7-labels-commo...