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AI, Tools and Transformation

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Re: AI, Tools and Transformation

#41
Things stay the same, until they don't. AI is a tool that talks. So it can evangelize itself, and now with "agency" it can even walk all around the company infra and become that 15-year-old who told dad that something could be done differently. When does that take off and start to make a difference?

Re: AI, Tools and Transformation

#42

Things stay the same, until they don't. AI is a tool that talks. So it can evangelize itself, and now with "agency" it can even walk all around the company infra and become that 15-year-old who told dad that something could be done differently. When does that take off and start to make a difference?

It already makes a difference for me. Instead of going through logfiles, i copy and paste them to claude and it does something and tells me the right answer.

In coding, tools i vibe code.

But the industry is still working on the agentic layer. I think we will see the first real bigger agentic layer setups this year and it will stteam roll a lot next year.

Re: AI, Tools and Transformation

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post #4

The way I see it is AI collapses hierarchy. Abstraction layers will become more flat both in software and in society. Because ultimately software and layers of heirarchy in society exists to serve a function. But now those functions are being replaced. Imagine this you used to need a library for common things in your software project. Even if you just need one function but because it was easier to just import a libra…

No it means that libraries that chose the wrong level of abstraction will die out, particularly the ones that have an insufficient number of levers to pull.

This is because of the rationale that makes you ignore the library:

AI lets you build a competitor, but there is no rule that says you have to. You build the library because the existing one makes what you want impossible, otherwise you would have just let the AI write on top of it.

Re: AI, Tools and Transformation

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> You need audit, security, maintenance and accountability. I think this is where the role of humans will move towards in the future. Things like accountability can't really be outsourced to AI. This relates to solving the alignment problem: if you give the AI a specific goal and it has to plan sub-goals, how can you be sure the sub-goals align with your interests. For tasks in an isloated environment, this doesn't r…

Of those four, I think accountability is truly the only moat. The other three are varying amounts of both testable and iterated on via adversarial agents steel-manning the implementations. Accountability will not come before AIs achieve legal personhood, and that probably will not happen in my lifetime. And if it does in some jurisdictions (which I am not betting money on, this is a full full AGI scenario after multi…

AIs achieving legal personhood isn’t going to do much. You can’t just put an AI behind bars

Re: AI, Tools and Transformation

#46
> It’s very tempting to imagine that AI turns everyone into a tool-builder

It is not imagination, it is the undeniable truth. The quality of the tool is proportional to the competency of the builder, it always has been that way, AI makes the building process shorter by a magnitude

Re: AI, Tools and Transformation

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post #40
post #4

The way I see it is AI collapses hierarchy. Abstraction layers will become more flat both in software and in society. Because ultimately software and layers of heirarchy in society exists to serve a function. But now those functions are being replaced. Imagine this you used to need a library for common things in your software project. Even if you just need one function but because it was easier to just import a libra…

Maybe not all AIs, but LLMs benefit immensely from abstraction. They are trained on human code, and human code usually uses very high abstraction - so high abstraction is overrepresented in training data compared to low level implementations. It also drastically reduces number of tokens, and that has downstream effect of better utilization of context window and whatnot. We are not yet at the point where AI can use lo…

I've never encountered a case where I tell AI just uses plain JavaScript instead of React and it doesn't result in much cleaner code.

Re: AI, Tools and Transformation

#49
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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because it’s too complex and not worth the effort. Most users will not care about or perceive the benefit. If they delegate that responsibility to Google via Electron, they can focus on features/bug fixes that move the needle.

This isnt how a company which has "solved programming" would act. Especially since users do prefer a native experience and having their RAM conserved.

This is exactly how a company would act when they notice millions of people downloading and using their ram-hungry electron app. There is just no reason to not act this way.
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