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Re: Nitter has more working instances than before the takedowns

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Post by numpad0 »

neilv wrote: post #148

A non -technological way to give negative feedback to Twitter/X is to stop using it, even "just reading an occasional post". Continuing to read things on it, even through Nitter, is in the interests of Twitter/X and of the people who continue to support Twitter/X by posting there. Tell the people who use it no. The decent people won't hear them on Twitter/X, and the decent people will wonder what's wrong with them if…

I doubt that works. They would be fine keeping it up indefinitely as their internal Slack. What I think would work better is to just keep using it like nothing happened except a child with skill issue has been ruining it, which require no pretentious, deliberate, or dishonest behavior.

The Twitter HQ had always fought its userbase and culture, not always relentlessly with passion, but never really loved it. The relationship between Twitter, Inc. and its user hivemind was always Clockwork Orange toxic. Though Musk trying to ruin it and getting his brain absolutely deep fried in a massive brain inflammation is his own doing, Musk ending up owning it in the first place, for the large part, is result of its former owners throwing in the towel.

Re: Nitter has more working instances than before the takedowns

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Post by DavCreator »

doublerabbit wrote: post #296
DavCreator wrote: post #76

we do a lil magic and just add another x to xcancel.com => https://xxcancel.com points to a working nitter instance.

Redirects and has a insane migraine inducing captcha. Why is my Ip sus when it's a UK residential? Gave up after the third attempt

oh, which instance gave you the pain? Will remove it from the load balancer..

Re: Nitter has more working instances than before the takedowns

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Post by stavros »

crtasm wrote: post #209
0points wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

// ==UserScript== // @name Twitter Alternative // @description // @match *://*.x.com/* // @namespace TwitterRedir // @run-at document-start // ==/UserScript== window.location.replace("https://twit.0r.cx" + window.location.pathname + window.location.search);

TIL ublock can do this (and won't have to wait for the initial response from x.com) - see the Tips section on https://twit.0r.cx

Wait, what tips section?

Re: Nitter has more working instances than before the takedowns

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Post by papyrus9244 »

troupo wrote: post #69
mitxela wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

mid tier trackers partner with seedbox providers who give them kickbacks for referrals, in exchange for an account

So. Easy to get into is: "some unspecified mid-tier trackers may or may not give out accounts to some unspecified seedbox providers". It's probably easier to lurk in r/trackerinvites (or whatever it's called) hoping to snatch an invite

> It's probably easier to lurk in r/trackerinvites (or whatever it's called) hoping to snatch an invite

I think it's much easier to pay 12 bucks for a month of seedbox that includes an invite to TL, than to hit F5 on /r/OpenSignups for months/years until they open registration.

Re: Nitter has more working instances than before the takedowns

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Post by sylware »

I don't recall to have had a twitter account.

Because it has been hostile to noscript/basic HTML browsers.

I could use a web API with some token, but it is impossible to create an account and generates such API tokens without a web engine from the whatwg cartel.

Re: Nitter has more working instances than before the takedowns

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Post by mxmilkiib »

slowin wrote: post #245
lrvick wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with everything you said and abandoned my Twitter account and everything on it years ago for these reasons. Everything, except for your usage of anarchism to imply chaos or disorder, which is a common misunderstanding. Anarchism, particularly the flavor I subscribe to which is Social Anarchism, is a pursuit of social order, freedom, and prosperity without centralized authorities like Musk.

Thank you for saying this. I totally agree with the OPs comment, but the use of anarchism is off. In fact collectivist anarchism is likely to improve the situation and at least, in theory, produce less predatory entities. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collectivist_anarchism

I'm fond of the communalism of Murray Bookchin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communalism_(Bookchin)

their ideas of liberatory technology and post-scarcity anarchism are refreshing

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/lewis-herber-murray-...

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/murray-bookchin-post...

plus the Kurds & co evolved their own system from the "libertarian municipalism" Bookchin described

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_confederalism

Re: Nitter has more working instances than before the takedowns

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Post by mxmilkiib »

gchamonlive wrote: post #317
lrvick wrote: post #314

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What credentials? I just pointed to supporting evidence I used the word in the way it is most commonly and publicly defined. Meanwhile you shared your own meaning as correct with no supporting evidence it is a definition commonly shared. You are free to make up your own special definitions of words that few if any share if you like. You can use the word cat to refer to a dog, for instance. It is not going to help you…

So in good faith I went to dig a bit what's the holdout in our debate here, and it's because I didn't understand two separate uses of anarchism, the one that's epistemological, anarchism as anti-foundationalism, my point, and your point that's political. In political anarchism we don't have this pressure to question every single thing, so when you said Socialist Anarchism I should have gone and read what that is had…

indeed, the context here is political/organisational rather than epistemological

anarchist organisational practices are real

people have been creating solutions to counter "The Tyranny of Structurelessness" for many decades now

coarsely put, anarchists (and work/housing co-ops, and protest groups) most generally favour consensus-process with proper anti-slow facilitation and role rotation, vs the [usually] majority voting systems and power dichotomies that are the style of communism (see democratic centeralism)

though many places just don't mention this essentially counts as anarchism (or libertarian socialism), cos a) the stigma, b) they just don't need to or know to, c) they do, just behind closed doors

"horizontalism/horizontalidad" has been a good descriptor

https://www.seedsforchange.org.uk/guides

https://www.radicalroutes.org.uk/structure-and-governance

see also sociocracy, and Murray Bookchin

and the whole range of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism plus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_communism in general

Re: Nitter has more working instances than before the takedowns

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Post by pndy »

alex1138 wrote: post #29

What do we want the web to look like? Lock everything down behind logins, in the name of 'security' when the real goal is nyeh nyeh nyeh you can't see anything, sign up so we get more user metrics

We are sadly already beyond the point where sites are locked behind accounts. Today, I'm more concerned about fact that "local" registration is often bundled by SSO from big corporations because it's so supesconvenient.

The future on the eve of age/identity verification doesn't look bright at all. And in years to come, 10 or so, we'll be most likely seeing this corporate-provided SSO as the only way to access sites. They got us trapped already anyway so it's a matter for pushing with law and good marketing.

Re: Nitter has more working instances than before the takedowns

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Post by done_lurking »

dredmorbius wrote: post #357
someonebaggy wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're all perfect substitutes. When one is down you can use another. They can't stop us all. I just wish there was a way to automatically redirect to a working instance.

What doesn't work is posting a link to a specific Nitter instance with the expectation that that link will persist . Which is what HN has been doing for Twitter submissions for approximately two years: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu... > Those links are all now dead.

It's inconvenient that the links are dead, but all the information needed to find the referenced information is still stored in the link. You just have to change the domain to a working instance.

Re: Nitter has more working instances than before the takedowns

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Post by qznc »

veltas wrote: post #371
neilv wrote: post #148

A non -technological way to give negative feedback to Twitter/X is to stop using it, even "just reading an occasional post". Continuing to read things on it, even through Nitter, is in the interests of Twitter/X and of the people who continue to support Twitter/X by posting there. Tell the people who use it no. The decent people won't hear them on Twitter/X, and the decent people will wonder what's wrong with them if…

I feel like I'm living under a rock reading this post. What are the problems with Twitter, why does it need boycotting?

I don't want media under control of billionaires like Musk. I mostly stopped using Twitter myself but many important institutions still feel compelled to publish there (sometimes even exclusively), thus I would like other people to also stop using it, so it can perish. Hopefully something better will fill that void. The Fediverse seems promising being a distributed system with no central control.
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