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Cloud in a Bottle: making self-hosting accessible to everyone

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Re: Cloud in a Bottle: making self-hosting accessible to everyone

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Post by bob1029 »

hamandcheese wrote: post #160
bob1029 wrote: post #151

There seems to be a lot of variance between stated and revealed preferences around self-hosting. It often seems like presenting the image of being autonomous to our peers seems more important than actually achieving it. It takes a lot of energy to replicate what AWS and friends have done once we factor in concerns like the passage of time and entropy. I've never been able to keep a media/NAS appliance alive for much…

> if you can actually afford to use the cloud. If you are an individual and you want to store a media library, you'll go broke instantly. I have roughly 200TB of storage capacity, 100TB used, in my NAS. That would be $2300/mo on S3 before even getting to access fees and network egress.

How are you backing up 100TB of data? Have you factored the consequences of catastrophic data loss into the economics? How much value would you lose if all your data was gone?

There's no way you are consuming this much content actively. You could store all of it in S3 deep archive for $200/m (100TB) and maintain a tiny fraction in the standard resource pool.

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Post by globular-toast »

Panzerschrek wrote: post #130
globular-toast wrote: post #125

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What's a "white IP address"? It is, sadly, more difficult than it should be, though. When everyone got online in the 90s they actually became bottom feeders and not true internet citizens. Not much has changed in 30 years. IPv6 is necessary, but the world also sucks now so people need to know what they're doing with firewalls etc. Domains are not too bad now, there are some decent registrars now like Porkbun.

"white IP address" is an address that your internet provider gives you and which is accessible from the whole internet, not just some address local for the provider's network and hidden behind NAT. Since IPv4 addresses are scarce, most providers don't allocate them directly to their customers. An unique IPv6 may be theoretically assigned to each end device and thus solve the accessibility problem for locally-hosted s…

That's usually called a public IP address, aka a real IP address.

IPv6 works exactly how you describe, that's the whole point of it. No NAT, just IP addresses. Some gaming consoles use it for peer to peer multiplayer so it is in demand even by normies. One of the problems is competition is stifled in the ISP market, by monopolies and ridiculously long contracts.

Re: Cloud in a Bottle: making self-hosting accessible to everyone

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Post by SifatAhmed »

djohnmustard wrote: post #75

Interesting project! I've found self hosting a lot more approachable with the advent of AI to help with inevitable errors. I run every new app in its own service account and as a rootless podman quadlet. There are three main difficulties that I come up against with every app. First is backups, or more accurately restoring data. My understanding is that just taking a snapshot doesn't always give you a working restore…

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Re: Cloud in a Bottle: making self-hosting accessible to everyone

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Post by stefandesu »

> 53 is required because instance runs its own authoritative DNS server.

Are you planning to offer alternative solutions for this, e.g. pointing a wildcard A record at the server running the instance? I'd rather not run a publicly accessible DNS server.

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Post by gitowiec »

noman-land wrote: post #44
cube00 wrote: post #12

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> The appetite to depart from subscriptions and loaning your personal data to ad/ai companies is stronger than ever. Only on HN, the general public don't care, they don't even know the name of their web browser.

The general public will do whatever their friends do. If there was an iPhone charger sized box they could plug in anywhere and have their own personal cloud that can interconnect with other personal clouds, and a celebrity said it was cool to have one, the general public will do it without giving it a first thought.

There should be influencers or agitators (as named correctly) to tell general public what distro to install, what server to buy and how block tracking and ads

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Post by Sophira »

hamandcheese wrote: post #158
globular-toast wrote: post #118

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The person doing this doesn't understand how pull requests work. The issues all say "I have a version in my fork". Open a pull request then! That's the whole point of forks on GitHub. Creating an issue first is pointless spamming akin to the classic "asking to ask". Just seems completely out of touch with open source to me.

> Creating an issue first is pointless spamming akin to the classic "asking to ask" Many projects disagree with you on this one. It is quite common to have a policy that forbids PRs without an issue or discussion first.

I've never actually seen this. Can you link an example?

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Post by rexpop »

jongjong wrote: post #157
hypfer wrote: post #115

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Because "perfectly legal" and "socially acceptable" often diverge quite a bit. The world would be quite miserable if "perfectly legal" would be what everyone optimizes for.

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> [Behavior X] is encouraged in my social circles and anyone who says otherwise is weak minded

What is "weak-minded"? Seems like an awfully brittle perspective.

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