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Re: Cloud in a Bottle: making self-hosting accessible to everyone

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These guys have been spamming issues in repos trying to promote this project and no disclosure whatsoever that they are associated with the project. https://github.com/search?q=%22cloudinabottle.toml%22&type=i...

It's evidence of bad abstraction if you need everyone else to make changes and couple themselves directly to you.

If for some reason your services can't speak an already common language, I think it's on you to add those shims into your own project.

Re: Cloud in a Bottle: making self-hosting accessible to everyone

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post #50

These guys have been spamming issues in repos trying to promote this project and no disclosure whatsoever that they are associated with the project. https://github.com/search?q=%22cloudinabottle.toml%22&type=i...

The person doing this doesn't understand how pull requests work. The issues all say "I have a version in my fork". Open a pull request then! That's the whole point of forks on GitHub. Creating an issue first is pointless spamming akin to the classic "asking to ask". Just seems completely out of touch with open source to me.

Some projects require opening an issue first.

Re: Cloud in a Bottle: making self-hosting accessible to everyone

#163
post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(author here) I'm checking with my team to confirm these came from us, but if so I apologize for this - posts like these should come from a real account with proper disclosure, but also these sorts of requests feel premature for a project like ours that doesn't yet have a sizeable user base.

> posts like these should come from a real account with proper disclosure This line makes me think you are running a spam campaign and andrew just isn't part of it

I used to work for this company many years ago, and it's highly unlikely they're running a (centrally organized) spamming campaign of any type. Zack's a good guy and I'm sure he'll get it taken care of promptly.

Re: Cloud in a Bottle: making self-hosting accessible to everyone

#164
post #12

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> The appetite to depart from subscriptions and loaning your personal data to ad/ai companies is stronger than ever. Only on HN, the general public don't care, they don't even know the name of their web browser.

True, most people get the full ad driven internet experience and it drives me nuts. Everytime I have to help other people with computer stuff I almost get an aneurysm when opening their browser...

At some point I started just installing ABP/uBO without even bothering to ask/tell them, if I had the opportunity. So far my reads seem to have been correct regarding whether this would conflict with each person's typical web use, as I've never heard back about any trouble.

Re: Cloud in a Bottle: making self-hosting accessible to everyone

#165
post #90

One thing that I found LLMs useful for is devops. I had rather good experience using agents to setup and deploy own cloud, Jellyfin and co. I experimented also getting a VPS, just giving the LLM the ssh keys and having at it. It’s pretty good. If the AI stays afloat, then I think the future lies somewhere there. Not too sure about the security side of the things …

> just giving the LLM the ssh keys and having at it. It’s pretty good. I'm mostly fine letting AI write code because its easily auditable and you can follow changes through the Git history. Whereas, it you let the AI go free on a server, you mostly have no idea what it did and where, so it's quite hard to audit and even harder to try and fix things. So, unless relying on a declarative paradigm like NixOS does, I'm no…

Admittedly this was not my castle. More of a $1.5/mo shed that I got just to try this.

Re: Cloud in a Bottle: making self-hosting accessible to everyone

#166
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The appetite to depart from subscriptions and loaning your personal data to ad/ai companies is stronger than ever. Only on HN, the general public don't care, they don't even know the name of their web browser.

Precisely. My uncle has been using the builtin Samsung web browser for years on his phone, just because it said "Internet" in the name, and "Chrome" just wasn't a familiar name to him. Most people are like this.

and didn't even matters tbh

Samsung web browser uses chromium under the hood

Re: Cloud in a Bottle: making self-hosting accessible to everyone

#167
post #90

One thing that I found LLMs useful for is devops. I had rather good experience using agents to setup and deploy own cloud, Jellyfin and co. I experimented also getting a VPS, just giving the LLM the ssh keys and having at it. It’s pretty good. If the AI stays afloat, then I think the future lies somewhere there. Not too sure about the security side of the things …

This is not me saying security doesn't matter (because it does) but having everything not publicly accessible and only accessible over Tailscale or Wireguard makes me slightly happier.

Re: Cloud in a Bottle: making self-hosting accessible to everyone

#168
post #50

These guys have been spamming issues in repos trying to promote this project and no disclosure whatsoever that they are associated with the project. https://github.com/search?q=%22cloudinabottle.toml%22&type=i...

Tell you what though, thank you for providing such a comprehensive list of cool projects to nerdsnipe me on a sunday morning!

Re: Cloud in a Bottle: making self-hosting accessible to everyone

#169
post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(author here) I'm checking with my team to confirm these came from us, but if so I apologize for this - posts like these should come from a real account with proper disclosure, but also these sorts of requests feel premature for a project like ours that doesn't yet have a sizeable user base.

You are also characterizing another project that was open-sourced (sandstorm) and is under active development as "long abandoned". Open source is difficult and requires a fair amount of cheerleading to engage users and make them part of the community. As a result it's hard to see your project in a positive light.

They also called out Sandstorm for requiring changes to the applications for them to run on the platform.
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