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The revolt of the reader

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Re: The revolt of the reader

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My revolt is against the cognitive stress of reading generated text. A trope typically indicates I’m in for an uphill read. I recently read this William Zinsser quote that inspired a nickname for this: Clotted Claude [1]. > Nobody has made the point better than George Orwell in his translation into modern bureaucratic fuzz of this famous verse from Ecclesiastes: > > I returned and saw under the sun, that the race is…

Am I the only one that finds the second one much easier to parse?

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Re: The revolt of the reader

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My revolt is against the cognitive stress of reading generated text. A trope typically indicates I’m in for an uphill read. I recently read this William Zinsser quote that inspired a nickname for this: Clotted Claude [1]. > Nobody has made the point better than George Orwell in his translation into modern bureaucratic fuzz of this famous verse from Ecclesiastes: > > I returned and saw under the sun, that the race is…

I came to this post and saw that Orwell had forgotten to mention money as the prerequisite of success, which was very unlike him.

Re: The revolt of the reader

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post #68

My revolt is against the cognitive stress of reading generated text. A trope typically indicates I’m in for an uphill read. I recently read this William Zinsser quote that inspired a nickname for this: Clotted Claude [1]. > Nobody has made the point better than George Orwell in his translation into modern bureaucratic fuzz of this famous verse from Ecclesiastes: > > I returned and saw under the sun, that the race is…

Am I the only one that finds the second one much easier to parse?

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Re: The revolt of the reader

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I did some experiments with very simple AI detection. You can get a very long way with simple ngram probabilities. https://meatbag.atomic14.com/ https://www.atomic14.com/2026/08/18/detecting-claude-with-le... It’s very hard to make reliable though. Different models have different characteristics and you can prompt your way out of being detected.

This is exactly how we should approach problems. Not through just throwing more resources at it (fighting GPU compute with GPU compute) but by being clever.

Thanks a lot for sharing!

Feeding it samples of a long-going conversation with Gemini 3.1 Pro is interesting. The first message seems to get flagged instantly, but later ones sometimes pass as human. Or at least more human-ish.

If I read the blogpost correctly, you've only "trained" on promptresponse and not interactive sessions?

Re: The revolt of the reader

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post #68

My revolt is against the cognitive stress of reading generated text. A trope typically indicates I’m in for an uphill read. I recently read this William Zinsser quote that inspired a nickname for this: Clotted Claude [1]. > Nobody has made the point better than George Orwell in his translation into modern bureaucratic fuzz of this famous verse from Ecclesiastes: > > I returned and saw under the sun, that the race is…

Am I the only one that finds the second one much easier to parse?

The first is of course from the King James Bible which for centuries was essentially a standard that all English speaking peoples aspired to. If you find that version difficult I would expect much literary writing before the 1940s also seems difficult. This is just to say I recommend reading the King James even if you are an atheist, as I am.

I also have to say that the first strikes me as being written by someone that might be smarter than I am, the second as being written by someone significantly less intelligent than I, yet somehow placed by society in a position of authority over me.

Re: The revolt of the reader

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post #68

My revolt is against the cognitive stress of reading generated text. A trope typically indicates I’m in for an uphill read. I recently read this William Zinsser quote that inspired a nickname for this: Clotted Claude [1]. > Nobody has made the point better than George Orwell in his translation into modern bureaucratic fuzz of this famous verse from Ecclesiastes: > > I returned and saw under the sun, that the race is…

Am I the only one that finds the second one much easier to parse?

Yeah, I found Orwell's easier to understand and quite fast to read as well, but I think it's just because of the style of writing of the first one. It's from an earlier style of prose that I'm just not used to.

I also don't have a problem with large words as long as I'm well familiar with the words. The length of a word has nothing to do with the complexity of its meaning. We just have a limit to the number of pronounceable combinations of 5 letters.

Re: The revolt of the reader

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post #97

This entire article is the bad toupee fallacy. Readers think they don't like LLM-authored text because they only recognize bad LLM-authored text as LLM-authored. Blind trials have actually shown that readers generally prefer LLM authored books to human-authored ones on the same subject.

The "trials" you're referring to is probably this study on 1000-word short stories

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/judgment-and-decisio...

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