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Re: Nitter has more working instances than before the takedowns

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Post by byyyuppa »

gchamonlive wrote: post #269
lrvick wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with everything you said and abandoned my Twitter account and everything on it years ago for these reasons. Everything, except for your usage of anarchism to imply chaos or disorder, which is a common misunderstanding. Anarchism, particularly the flavor I subscribe to which is Social Anarchism, is a pursuit of social order, freedom, and prosperity without centralized authorities like Musk.

Anarchism is questioning authority for authority sake. If you put yourself in the place of authority to tell other people what's anarchism you are in for a bad time. The disagreement is the key value of anarchism. The dialectical pendulum, the exchange of ideas. Disagreeing is expressing anarchism, even if you disagree with the other party's understanding of anarchism.

Your disagreement here is not the typical understanding. And correcting people is not pushing hierarchy. The parent poster isn't standing over you, they are standing beside you offering to educate you.

You can call anarchism whatever you want, just... if you invent your own notion of the thing don't be surprised when no one understands you.

Edit: I see your post much deeper on, you can ignore me.

Re: Nitter has more working instances than before the takedowns

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Post by byyyuppa »

analog8374 wrote: post #335
lrvick wrote: post #304

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My explanation is in line with the community maintained Wikipedia articles and their sources based on a long history of anarchist history and writings, and none of it seems to be under any significant dispute. One does not need to be in a position of authority above others to help ensure discussions are grounded in common definitions of what words mean.

In Orwell's 1984, control of the language was central to control of society. Newspeak and such. Consider recent quibbles over pronouns.

Given Orwell's strong endorsement of anarchists, it's unlikely he's lampooning anarchists in 1984...

Re: Nitter has more working instances than before the takedowns

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Post by byyyuppa »

zahlman wrote: post #326
lrvick wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with everything you said and abandoned my Twitter account and everything on it years ago for these reasons. Everything, except for your usage of anarchism to imply chaos or disorder, which is a common misunderstanding. Anarchism, particularly the flavor I subscribe to which is Social Anarchism, is a pursuit of social order, freedom, and prosperity without centralized authorities like Musk.

No, sorry. Political activists do not get to decide for everyone else what words mean.

Everyone gets to decide what words mean. But anarchism has lots and lots of history of scholarship, debate, and discussion. Kropotkin was writing about this in the 1800s, and we've had well over a century of defining and shaping the definitions.

The parent poster isn't inventing anything or deciding anything. They're just sharing what the common understandings are.

Re: Nitter has more working instances than before the takedowns

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Post by cute_boi »

ComputerGuru wrote: post #138
prophesi wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember the days that Bibliogram worked for Instagram. They've given up. A decade ago I could have an RSS feed for what my friends posted, besides the toxic short-form content of IG reels that everyone is now obsessed with post Meta acquisition and their battle to compete with Tiktok.

Instagram is actively hostile to good ui. They constantly go out of their way to break extensions that add a video scrubber.

Zuckerberg and his minions have changes html and obfuscate it so much, it is impossible to block ads these days. They are worst than google. Imagine google decided every video will require widevine & there is no way to block ads just like twitch.

Re: Nitter has more working instances than before the takedowns

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Post by GolfPopper »

ipython wrote: post #244
neilv wrote: post #148

A non -technological way to give negative feedback to Twitter/X is to stop using it, even "just reading an occasional post". Continuing to read things on it, even through Nitter, is in the interests of Twitter/X and of the people who continue to support Twitter/X by posting there. Tell the people who use it no. The decent people won't hear them on Twitter/X, and the decent people will wonder what's wrong with them if…

The trouble is that many us government figures exclusively post information via x (and to some extent Facebook as well)

Are you speaking of public services, like the National Weather Service (also on Facebook, and host their own website), or about politicians and their appointees? Because while the public service arm of the U.S. government still does a ton of critical and often-underappreciated work, the semantic content of U.S. politicians' posts is effectively nil.

Re: Nitter has more working instances than before the takedowns

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Post by jrflowers »

gchamonlive wrote: post #317
lrvick wrote: post #314

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What credentials? I just pointed to supporting evidence I used the word in the way it is most commonly and publicly defined. Meanwhile you shared your own meaning as correct with no supporting evidence it is a definition commonly shared. You are free to make up your own special definitions of words that few if any share if you like. You can use the word cat to refer to a dog, for instance. It is not going to help you…

So in good faith I went to dig a bit what's the holdout in our debate here, and it's because I didn't understand two separate uses of anarchism, the one that's epistemological, anarchism as anti-foundationalism, my point, and your point that's political. In political anarchism we don't have this pressure to question every single thing, so when you said Socialist Anarchism I should have gone and read what that is had…

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Re: Nitter has more working instances than before the takedowns

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Post by dredmorbius »

someonebaggy wrote: post #21
arjie wrote: post #15

Yeah, but most of these will fall. I used to use one or two of these to scrape my friends' posts because I stopped using Twitter and they'd inevitably all disappear in time. It's like chasing the latest TPB. In the end, I just logged in a headless browser and told an agent to fetch daily.

They're all perfect substitutes. When one is down you can use another. They can't stop us all. I just wish there was a way to automatically redirect to a working instance.

What doesn't work is posting a link to a specific Nitter instance with the expectation that that link will persist.

Which is what HN has been doing for Twitter submissions for approximately two years:

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...>

Those links are all now dead.

Re: Nitter has more working instances than before the takedowns

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Post by uyeueuduuidt »

lrvick wrote: post #304
gchamonlive wrote: post #269

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anarchism is questioning authority for authority sake. If you put yourself in the place of authority to tell other people what's anarchism you are in for a bad time. The disagreement is the key value of anarchism. The dialectical pendulum, the exchange of ideas. Disagreeing is expressing anarchism, even if you disagree with the other party's understanding of anarchism.

My explanation is in line with the community maintained Wikipedia articles and their sources based on a long history of anarchist history and writings, and none of it seems to be under any significant dispute. One does not need to be in a position of authority above others to help ensure discussions are grounded in common definitions of what words mean.

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Re: Nitter has more working instances than before the takedowns

#360

Post by uyeueuduuidt »

byyyuppa wrote: post #352
analog8374 wrote: post #335

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Orwell's 1984, control of the language was central to control of society. Newspeak and such. Consider recent quibbles over pronouns.

Given Orwell's strong endorsement of anarchists, it's unlikely he's lampooning anarchists in 1984...

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