The death of San Francisco's Market Street

Post by Arainach » Sat, Sep 05, 2026, 8:55 PM UTC

pandaman wrote: post #80

Arainach wrote: post #3

So many things wrong with this, but let's call out one of the most obvious: > But a bus will kill a pedestrian just as easily as a car will, which is why Market Street remains empty of pedestrian traffic No citation, just pure nonsense. As a pedestrian and cyclist: bus drivers are great. They have higher licensing standards, their income is tied to maintaining a license, they're well trained and professional. Meanwhi…

No citation for your nonsense either so I actually went and looked. It turns out busses get into accidents more often per mile travelled [1]: "the number of bus accidents per million passenger miles (3.04) is comparable to the number of car accidents per million driven miles (3.21)" considering that a bus has more than 1 passenger on average it means their accident rate per mile travelled is way higher than a car. 1.…

Post by brudgers » Sun, Sep 06, 2026, 9:03 PM UTC

xorcist wrote: post #89

brudgers wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t disagree. As a pedestrian, cyclists are a huge danger because cycling culture is built on aggression, ignoring traffic laws like stop signs and cross walks, and treating humans as street furniture.

> cycling culture is built on aggression, If it is, that's only because you scared away all the others, leaving behind only the ones that aren't scared of anything. Look at cycling culture in Copenhagen or Amsterdam sometime. That's what cycling looks like when left undisturbed. Children, elderly, and few even wear helmets.