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Re: Github experiencing major service outages across all services.

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Post by rwg »

callahad wrote: post #17
jtchang wrote: post #5

This is why I love git (and distributed version control systems in general). For the most part a short downtime isn't the end of the world. When it comes back up I'll push my changes and that'll be that.

Exactly. I'm sitting here thinking "poor GitHub engineers" rather than "oh crap, how am I going to work?" (Though I do wish GitHub Issues weren't as centralized...)

One of the neat things about repos in Fossil (the DVCS by drh of SQLite fame) is that they have a built-in wiki and issue tracker whose contents are version controlled along with everything else in a project's repo. The Fossil executable also has a built-in web server that presents a web interface for working with the repo, including the issue tracker and wiki.

In short, if you have a project's Fossil repo, you can work on everything locally, then push source, wiki, and issue tracker changes to a central repo at your leisure.

Re: Github experiencing major service outages across all services.

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Post by zaidf »

csense wrote: post #46
cagenut wrote: post #10

That's a really nice status dashboard, tracking and publicly displaying your 98th% is really cool. On the other hand stuff like this: "13:17 UTC We are seeing unicorns ..." Comes off as un-professional at exactly the wrong moment.

Other posters have noted where the terminology comes from. But you should really learn to take the meaning of an unknown term from context if you don't know what it means. As for the accusations of unprofessionalism -- I'll take vivid metaphor [1] like "seeing unicorns" over a dull monotone description like "our site is experiencing server errors." [1] As other replies have pointed out, in this case it's not a metaph…

May be just a matter of preference but for me "our site is experiencing server errors" is much clearer communication than "seeing unicorns." The latter requires me to learn a new terminology in a high pressure environment for no good reason.

And if "seeing unicorns" was a code word for a specific kind of errors, then again I would rather have a more descriptive terminology and not one that I may confuse for an inside joke.

Re: Github experiencing major service outages across all services.

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Post by rubynerd »

ghshephard wrote: post #67
tinco wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your company runs its source revisions through Github without a backup solution? Do you really put all your eggs in a basket you have no control over? I know that in theory a cloud solution should have a higher uptime than an amateuristic set up private server, but cloud solutions have a certain complexity and coherence that make them very vulnerable to these kinds of 'full failures' where nothing is in your control.…

Add up your downtime over a three year period by relying on Git (or gmail, or AWS) versus the cost of trying to engineer some local-backup system, and the downtime associated with that going awry. Outages happens - as long as we're talking hours a year, pretty much everyone but life-safety systems, critical infrastructure, and payment/high-traffic commerce sites are probably better off just letting third-party cloud…

You make a very good point, but it took me about three minutes to build a git mirror which we can push/pull to, can re-configure CI to if we need to, and can be used to run a full deploy from on the company VPS server.

* Create an unprivileged account & set a password that you don't need to remember -> sudo adduser git

* Add your public key from your laptop to the unprivileged user's authorized_keys file -> sudo su git; cd ~; mkdir .ssh; vim authorized_keys - then copy and paste your id_rsa.pub to that file

* Repeat that for all public keys on your engineering team

* In git's home directory, git init --bare .git

* On your local machine, git remote add doomsday git@:.git

* git push doomsday --all

* On colleague's box, git clone git@:.git

Let me know if there is a better way of doing this, or if it's monumentally screwed somehow.

Re: Github experiencing major service outages across all services.

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Post by wtracy »

drivebyacct2 wrote: post #32
silverbax88 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would point out that both TFS and Mercurial do the same thing (as does ClearCase, but ClearCase is awwwful), but with much less memory consumption on the local PC. Not trying to add snark (I upvoted the above comment), just adding that it's not a GitHub feature.

Last time I used TFS it would take 5, literally 5 minutes to time out for checkouts. The way TFS acts I don't even feel it's accurate to call it a DVCS. The only SCM I like less than TFS is SourceDepot. The bane of my existence. It's sad when I can rant about it abstractly and my father can sympathize.

Does TFS beat out ClearCase on the Worst SCM Hierarchy? I'm just curious; I had to use ClearCase a lot at a previous job, and hated it but I've never used TFS.

Re: Github experiencing major service outages across all services.

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Post by FiloSottile »

lee337 wrote: post #47
experiment0 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They do offer a free plan for students. I get 5 free private repos. I can't get the link now since GitHub is down ha, but when it's back up, just have a quick google and you'll find a quick form to fill in and voila. It's great.

Once the current issues are resolved, students can sign up for a free GitHub micro account (5 free private repositories with unlimited collaborators) via https://github.com/edu . You just need a verified, valid-looking email address i.e. joe@stanford.edu, jim@strath.ac.uk, etc.

If you give them a good explanation, or some proof you are at school somewhere, they will be cool with that even without the .edu email. Great guys!

Re: Github experiencing major service outages across all services.

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Post by angersock »

shoopy wrote: post #11
jtchang wrote: post #5

This is why I love git (and distributed version control systems in general). For the most part a short downtime isn't the end of the world. When it comes back up I'll push my changes and that'll be that.

I can do the same thing with CVS?

You're kidding, right? Might as well say you can do the same thing with diff, rsync, and cron.

:|

Re: Github experiencing major service outages across all services.

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Post by bencevans »

rolleiflex wrote: post #21

Well handled, minus the unicorns. Tangentially relevant: I just wish Github offered some sort of an academic plan for students, no private repo means that I cannot use Github at all not because I'm building closed-source software, but because I (obviously) can't put my assignment work for public viewing before the assignment deadline. So I've been using Bitbucket, which is fine and all, but I would have loved to be a…

GitHub do provide Edu accounts, I have one! I guess I went to github.com/edu or /education or something but it gave me the form at /contact, you say what your up to, where you go and such and they put a coupon on your account to give you a free micro plan.

Re: Github experiencing major service outages across all services.

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Post by jeremyjh »

ghshephard wrote: post #67
tinco wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your company runs its source revisions through Github without a backup solution? Do you really put all your eggs in a basket you have no control over? I know that in theory a cloud solution should have a higher uptime than an amateuristic set up private server, but cloud solutions have a certain complexity and coherence that make them very vulnerable to these kinds of 'full failures' where nothing is in your control.…

Add up your downtime over a three year period by relying on Git (or gmail, or AWS) versus the cost of trying to engineer some local-backup system, and the downtime associated with that going awry. Outages happens - as long as we're talking hours a year, pretty much everyone but life-safety systems, critical infrastructure, and payment/high-traffic commerce sites are probably better off just letting third-party cloud…

Github is definitely in 2-digits this year.

Re: Github experiencing major service outages across all services.

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Post by drivebyacct2 »

wtracy wrote: post #74
drivebyacct2 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Last time I used TFS it would take 5, literally 5 minutes to time out for checkouts. The way TFS acts I don't even feel it's accurate to call it a DVCS. The only SCM I like less than TFS is SourceDepot. The bane of my existence. It's sad when I can rant about it abstractly and my father can sympathize.

Does TFS beat out ClearCase on the Worst SCM Hierarchy? I'm just curious; I had to use ClearCase a lot at a previous job, and hated it but I've never used TFS.

I've yet to have the pleasure of using ClearCase.
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