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Can AI design circuit boards yet?

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Re: Can AI design circuit boards yet?

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A personal data point: I had Claude Opus 4.8 design a fairly textbook circuit that outputs a monochrome image burned in an EEPROM over standard 640x480 VGA using only 74 series logic and GALs. It designed the circuit and GAL code, and I did the routing, and got it made through JLC for $6. After it came back, there was one error that was not caught, which I could blue-wire, and it works just fine otherwise. I was fair…

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I have 15+ years of PCB design experience. Mostly hobby stuff but a fair amount of processional work. Kilowatt range brushless motor controllers, basic RF stuff, lots of microcontroller stuff. I had Fable design an LED earring. Rechargeable coin cell, RP2350 cpu, IMU, 45 addressable LEDs. It made two mistakes - missed the through holes on the coin cell holder footprint and made the center pad too small. I was able to…

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This week I had Opus 5 review pdf schematics of a (human-designed) PCB that wasn't working right, and it found the root of both problems I was seeing. Makes me think that adversarial design/review would work well. And somebody having an agent look at this schematic before they made boards would've saved me a lot of time.

Re: Can AI design circuit boards yet?

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Lets say I do vibetronics - Who can I then send the schematics to, to have troubleshooting completed? Is there a service that is like "okay we'll take your high voltage nightmare and double check that it won't make magic smoke"?

Depending on what you’re doing, there are circuit simulators that can verify your work. You can have the LLM drive the simulation but of course then you have to trust that it’s setting up and interpreting the simulation correctly.

Re: Can AI design circuit boards yet?

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I have 15+ years of PCB design experience. Mostly hobby stuff but a fair amount of processional work. Kilowatt range brushless motor controllers, basic RF stuff, lots of microcontroller stuff. I had Fable design an LED earring. Rechargeable coin cell, RP2350 cpu, IMU, 45 addressable LEDs. It made two mistakes - missed the through holes on the coin cell holder footprint and made the center pad too small. I was able to…

> I think big things are coming for this world and by and large they are not ready for it.

With regard to PCB design, I'm curious if can you add more color to how the world isn't ready for this in particular? I don't think I quite grasp all the ramifications of AI becoming PCB design experts.

Re: Can AI design circuit boards yet?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Next-token prediction” describes the output format, not the computation required to choose each token. During training, models develop internal representations of concepts, constraints, possible futures, and algorithms. The PCB agent also writes circuit code, runs simulations, reads failures, and revises the design. It isn’t one-shot autocomplete. Astra and Fable are already hard to square with “mere autocomplete.”…

Yeah most of us are so fucked. With almost no way of protecting ourselves. No real amount of assets that will give enough power to save ourselves from the people in a position that can maximally leverage AI and lock others out. I see a future where these capabilities will be locked behind super high price pay walls. Why wouldn't they? How recoup investments if the price doesnt go up?

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