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Re: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil

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Really comes in handy to still have a couple of colonies near the equator. It's also better to have the massive amounts of emissions far away from your own population.

French Guiana is not a colony, it is a region of France. People who live there have the same constitutional rights as anyone living in mainland France. It has the same status in France as Alaska does in the US.

It's a colony even if it's legally part of France.

(Had to check: free movement does apply to Guianans, but in the other direction it's not part of Schengen)

Re: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil

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This is a huge success, but it I think also tells us that the EU is further decoupling itself from the US. Slowly but steadily. Which is obviously the right thing to do, but it's interesting that it's not just a hypothetical anymore.

It is indeed a huge success but it also underlines how far ahead the rest of the world is.

only four countries in the world have private/commercial space launch capacity, and SpaceX towers over everyone else so I'd say this is doing pretty alright compared to the rest of the world

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I think you meant non-US? Although Ariane's rockets are wildly expensive and uncompetitive compared to SpaceX.

No, counterintuitively Ariane is non-EU. It launches from South America

French Guyana is part of the EU, actually, in spite of being in South America. (Colonialism!)

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> Just look at how today the USA tried to hand over land of Ukraine to Putin Was it the land that Russia currently controls and Ukraine is very unlikely to retake? There's a spectrum between ideological behavior and pragmatic behavior. If Ukraine gives up this land and achieves peace, maybe it's worth it. I'm not suggesting it definitely is but at least the US is trying to negotiate or find some sort of solution, eve…

> Was it the land that Russia currently controls and Ukraine is very unlikely to retake? There's a spectrum between ideological behavior and pragmatic behavior. If Ukraine gives up this land and achieves peace, maybe it's worth it. I'm not suggesting it definitely is but at least the US is trying to negotiate or find some sort of solution, even if it's not going well.

It wasn't the US's decision to make, certainly not without having talked to Ukraine.

And right now, well, this war will continue until one of them runs out of money. The EU currently appears to consider Ukrainian sovereignty in this war to be in their own national interests, so they will keep funding it. Who will support the Russian economy in the same way?

> Nah Europe will still support it. Nothing will change there. But if you want things to change, we can completely withdraw from NATO, move bases back from Europe where we see fit, and un-sanction Russia while no longer providing support to Ukraine in any fashion and no longer sell weapons to Europe. That would be a disaster for Europe, which is why I tend to think comments like this are either ignorant, or pro-Russia/Iran/China with the intent to further inflame whatever tensions exist.

You, and many like you, really need to stop thinking Trump's behaviour is something that can be easily undone. You write to suggest dissenting voices are pro-China: Trump's actions have already forced many in the EU to consider the USA to be a bigger threat than China.

This isn't us liking China, we think poorly of their human rights record etc., it's just that the USA has fallen that far in our eyes.

Just to make it specific: Which city do you live in? I want you to imagine it getting actually, literally, nuked by French or British missiles in response to the USA doing what Trump keeps saying he'll do to Canada or Greenland.

Actual nukes.

I hope that will stay imagination.

Trump has a lot of levers he could pull that would be de facto acts of war besides annexing allies like he says he wants to. Ordering all the tech companies to stop providing services overnight, even that might do it given current dependencies.

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I think you meant non-US? Although Ariane's rockets are wildly expensive and uncompetitive compared to SpaceX.

Cost decreases with scale. Spacex was also wildly expensive, it grew up thanks to government assistance

This is an inaccurate simplification

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I'm honestly not sure if this is the right platform then. And that's coming from me, who is already tiptoeing the letter of the law in pursuit of the spirit of the law. I don't see you contributing to the space here. Just to yourself and your self-image, maybe. Like.. not even trying.

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Re: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil

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I think you meant non-US? Although Ariane's rockets are wildly expensive and uncompetitive compared to SpaceX.

No, counterintuitively Ariane is non-EU. It launches from South America

Last time I checked, France was part of the EU

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I think you meant non-US? Although Ariane's rockets are wildly expensive and uncompetitive compared to SpaceX.

Cost decreases with scale. Spacex was also wildly expensive, it grew up thanks to government assistance

> it grew up thanks to government assistance

Please give an example of gov assistance that was not a open contract to every private launch company in the US

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