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Re: Terpstra Keyboard

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HTTP;DR

If you got a product to demonstrate, have the dignity to use HTTPS. With a remotely exploitable vulnerability in Google Chrome V8 in the wild, all the more reason to. Even though I am using Mozilla Firefox, there's probably some Chromium-based software I use.

Re: Terpstra Keyboard

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HTTP;DR If you got a product to demonstrate, have the dignity to use HTTPS. With a remotely exploitable vulnerability in Google Chrome V8 in the wild, all the more reason to. Even though I am using Mozilla Firefox, there's probably some Chromium-based software I use.

I don't see how https is relevant for browser JS vulnerabilities.

Re: Terpstra Keyboard

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Any idea why something like this costs $5,000? It seems like manufacturing costs would justify 1/10th of that maybe? Disclaimer: I'm not a hardware manufacturer nor retailer, I'm just going off what regular typing keyboards go for.

I’ve only seen videos of this keyboard but never played one. With that disclaimer out of the way, the price is comparable to mid-range clavinova models. The clavinova does have a piano-like body, very very good built in sounds (including binaural for 2 types of piano in mine), and built in speakers, so there’s that. On the other hand, this one says “built to order” while clavinovas are not. All this to say that, whil…

Clavinovas in that range have very intricate internal actions and don't have simple 1 year warranties lol

Re: Terpstra Keyboard

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HTTP;DR If you got a product to demonstrate, have the dignity to use HTTPS. With a remotely exploitable vulnerability in Google Chrome V8 in the wild, all the more reason to. Even though I am using Mozilla Firefox, there's probably some Chromium-based software I use.

I don't see how https is relevant for browser JS vulnerabilities.

Man in the middle attacks are much easier.

Re: Terpstra Keyboard

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I play the lumatone ( https://www.lumatone.io/ ) which is very similar. I personally love it, especially as I like to do a lot of improv in various tunings, and the layout makes transposing and thinking about structure so much easier than a traditional keyboard. The terpstra seems similar, not sure what their selling point is over the lumatone. Edit: oh, it seems that the lumatone is the commercialized version essent…

Any idea why something like this costs $5,000? It seems like manufacturing costs would justify 1/10th of that maybe? Disclaimer: I'm not a hardware manufacturer nor retailer, I'm just going off what regular typing keyboards go for.

Lot of finicky keys with velocity sensitivity and polyphonic after touch.

Re: Terpstra Keyboard

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I have a Lumatone and I do like it, but I think the benefits of isomorphism are somewhat oversold. It does let you think in intervals, but on the other hand thinking in steps becomes harder.

Re: Terpstra Keyboard

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> Any idea why something like this costs $5,000? It seems like manufacturing costs would justify 1/10th of that maybe? welcome to Capitalism and Niche Products sir

What does it have to do with "Capitalism" per se? If you have a well made, but very niche product that sells in very small volumes it will be expensive. If any of the labour & assembly happens in US that turns it into unavoidable inevitability. If it was cheaper, it would be a loss making hobby. A country without "capitalism" wouldn't make such product for sale to begin with.

maybe a society which has laws and regulations voted by citizens (anarchy for example) commercial products shouldn't profit over 700% or some absurdity which caps the 5000 usd number... it's not like velocity sensible keys are expensive or overly complex to produce

micro-tonal instruments are prevalent in various cultures which weren't flooded by Europe and then North America by hundreds, if not thousands of years ago. it's pretty easy to find examples on countries inside Africa and Asia

Re: Terpstra Keyboard

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I play the lumatone ( https://www.lumatone.io/ ) which is very similar. I personally love it, especially as I like to do a lot of improv in various tunings, and the layout makes transposing and thinking about structure so much easier than a traditional keyboard. The terpstra seems similar, not sure what their selling point is over the lumatone. Edit: oh, it seems that the lumatone is the commercialized version essent…

Any idea why something like this costs $5,000? It seems like manufacturing costs would justify 1/10th of that maybe? Disclaimer: I'm not a hardware manufacturer nor retailer, I'm just going off what regular typing keyboards go for.

A tenth of that gets you a basic but solid 88-key Roland FP-10; that's something they will sell a shit ton of and which shares components with several other pianos.

It's also worth noting that a piano or piano-like keyboard will be taking _much_ greater impacts than any typist inflicts on a computer keyboard; a music keyboard needs a mechanical action that can properly and rapidly reset the keys, withstanding many rapidly repeated simultaneous heavy strikes.

Re: Terpstra Keyboard

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does it have to do with "Capitalism" per se? If you have a well made, but very niche product that sells in very small volumes it will be expensive. If any of the labour & assembly happens in US that turns it into unavoidable inevitability. If it was cheaper, it would be a loss making hobby. A country without "capitalism" wouldn't make such product for sale to begin with.

maybe a society which has laws and regulations voted by citizens (anarchy for example) commercial products shouldn't profit over 700% or some absurdity which caps the 5000 usd number... it's not like velocity sensible keys are expensive or overly complex to produce micro-tonal instruments are prevalent in various cultures which weren't flooded by Europe and then North America by hundreds, if not thousands of years ag…

> it's not like velocity sensible keys are expensive or overly complex to produce

Oh, my sweet summer child; music instrument keys are mechanically not the same thing as a computer keyboard. There are moving parts involved that need to handle routine forces that easily break a normal computer keyboard. 𝆑𝆑𝆑 calls for your whole arm and torso.

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