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Re: Git hosting that never leaves Europe

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Post by drivingmenuts » Sat, Sep 05, 2026, 1:24 PM UTC

pjullrich wrote: post #10

Hi, Peter the Founder of Pushin.eu here. Sorry, the website escaped containment and landed on HN before I had the chance to update the "marketing materials" aka. landing page. So, here are a few points: *The product is stable, but still in development. That's why some of the core things like pricing, etc. are missing. BUT:* 1. Business Model: Pushin will have subscriptions for individuals and teams. Pricing is not ye…

> I say "we" but it's really only me (Peter Ullrich, peterullrich.com) and my dog (Bella, Labrador, beige)

Is there an EU law about a "dog tax" when you've mentioned the dog? Perhaps there should be.

Ps - I'm kidding. Mostly. I like dogs and cats. Frequently, more than people.

Re: Git hosting that never leaves Europe

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Post by whythismatters » Sat, Sep 05, 2026, 2:00 PM UTC

pjullrich wrote: post #43

throwaway934876 wrote: post #40

Love it and will try to find a way to use it and pay for it. That name though, does make me feel that somewhere in the stack is a tool called Gitler. Sorry!!

Thank you, but what? The name was meant like: `Push in (Europe)` hence, pushin.eu

I read it, perhaps ironically, as colloquial/slang US English, like "lemme git to pushin' y'all!"

Re: Git hosting that never leaves Europe

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Post by msdz » Sat, Sep 05, 2026, 2:00 PM UTC

pjullrich wrote: post #21

graemep wrote: post #17

Its specifically based in France. This matters as EU law is less uniform than US law (yes, like differences between states, but a lot more so). The UI is a lot snappier than Github. The promise not to train models on the code is not very useful for public repos, and I cannot see anything about private repos.

Yes, we can't block models from scraping the public repos and train on them, but *we* won't use your code (neither public nor private) to train models on them. We really only want to host your code and do that well.

> we can't block models from scraping the public repos

FYI, there is the nuke option, which is generating endless nonsense pages as a form of “bot sink” [1] that ends the scraping relatively quickly, but IIRC that also tanks your search rankings, since it likely affects benign crawlers too – not something you’d necessarily want to happen to a new domain, unless you really need to protect server resources against aggressive hostile crawlers like SourceHut and so many others had to combat.

[1] https://www.toxsec.com/p/ai-tar-pits-are-drowning-llm-scrape...

Re: Git hosting that never leaves Europe

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Post by juujian » Sat, Sep 05, 2026, 2:03 PM UTC

pjullrich wrote: post #10

Hi, Peter the Founder of Pushin.eu here. Sorry, the website escaped containment and landed on HN before I had the chance to update the "marketing materials" aka. landing page. So, here are a few points: *The product is stable, but still in development. That's why some of the core things like pricing, etc. are missing. BUT:* 1. Business Model: Pushin will have subscriptions for individuals and teams. Pricing is not ye…

Interesting team, what does Bella bring to the table?

Re: Git hosting that never leaves Europe

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Post by pjullrich » Sat, Sep 05, 2026, 2:07 PM UTC

juujian wrote: post #84

pjullrich wrote: post #10

Hi, Peter the Founder of Pushin.eu here. Sorry, the website escaped containment and landed on HN before I had the chance to update the "marketing materials" aka. landing page. So, here are a few points: *The product is stable, but still in development. That's why some of the core things like pricing, etc. are missing. BUT:* 1. Business Model: Pushin will have subscriptions for individuals and teams. Pricing is not ye…

Interesting team, what does Bella bring to the table?

Mostly her toys which I should throw without first taking them. Only throw, no taking

Re: Git hosting that never leaves Europe

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Post by NotHowItWorks » Sat, Sep 05, 2026, 2:07 PM UTC

pjullrich wrote: post #21

graemep wrote: post #17

Its specifically based in France. This matters as EU law is less uniform than US law (yes, like differences between states, but a lot more so). The UI is a lot snappier than Github. The promise not to train models on the code is not very useful for public repos, and I cannot see anything about private repos.

Yes, we can't block models from scraping the public repos and train on them, but *we* won't use your code (neither public nor private) to train models on them. We really only want to host your code and do that well.

LLMs are read only.

A developer would be the one using the LLM to evaluate page response text and scraping what they need.

LLMs cannot “crawl pages” or “scrape” or do anything - it’s an offline archive with a few convenience methods.

Re: Git hosting that never leaves Europe

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Post by NotHowItWorks » Sat, Sep 05, 2026, 2:07 PM UTC

msdz wrote: post #83

pjullrich wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, we can't block models from scraping the public repos and train on them, but *we* won't use your code (neither public nor private) to train models on them. We really only want to host your code and do that well.

> we can't block models from scraping the public repos FYI, there is the nuke option, which is generating endless nonsense pages as a form of “bot sink” [1] that ends the scraping relatively quickly, but IIRC that also tanks your search rankings, since it likely affects benign crawlers too – not something you’d necessarily want to happen to a new domain, unless you really need to protect server resources against aggr…

Facepalm

Re: Git hosting that never leaves Europe

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Post by pjullrich » Sat, Sep 05, 2026, 2:09 PM UTC

dadoum wrote: post #78

pjullrich wrote: post #10

Hi, Peter the Founder of Pushin.eu here. Sorry, the website escaped containment and landed on HN before I had the chance to update the "marketing materials" aka. landing page. So, here are a few points: *The product is stable, but still in development. That's why some of the core things like pricing, etc. are missing. BUT:* 1. Business Model: Pushin will have subscriptions for individuals and teams. Pricing is not ye…

You seem to cite tangled a lot, and logically, I am wondering if you have any plan to also federalize on top of the AT protocol, so accounts could interact across the site boundary and also allow self hosting but still benefiting from pushin network? It may be hard in terms of design so I understand if you say you won't.

Yes! I’d love to provide private or at least personal firehoses to users maybe based on the same lexicons as Tangled uses so that you can sync your Pushin repo to your own Tangled knot. That’d be cool, no? Also, sign-in with your atmosphere account, and generally offering lexicon-based API output to make it easy to sync to Tangled or somewhere else

Re: Git hosting that never leaves Europe

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Post by pjullrich » Sat, Sep 05, 2026, 2:15 PM UTC

qznc wrote: post #59

pautasso wrote: post #22

https://codeberg.org/ also fits the description of "Git hosting that never leaves Europe".

Codeberg seems to focus on OSS whereas pushin seems to focus on enterprise/commercial uses?

That’s right. There are plenty of good options for OSS but few to none focused on both, public and private especially with team/enterprise support. That’s why I created Pushin :) simply to have a place to store both my public and private repos but still retain a community which you dont get on a self-hosted solution

Re: Git hosting that never leaves Europe

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Post by NotHowItWorks » Sat, Sep 05, 2026, 2:24 PM UTC

pjullrich wrote: post #31

potato-peeler wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Pushin doesn't track anything beyond the obvious: email, password hash, username, whatever information you put on your profile This seems poorly worded or genuinely concerning. Why do you want to track my email, username or anything in my profile. What do you do with it? How do you track it?

"Track" means "store" here and we need to store it for authentication (email+password hash) and to show your public profile (e.g. https://pushin.eu/pjullrich ). So, regular things, not tracking you for data mining stuff

Track doesn’t mean store.

The word you are looking for is “collect”.

Saying you “track” implies you’re putting together a profile to be consumed in other services