Can AI design circuit boards yet?
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#152Re: Can AI design circuit boards yet?
#153We tested pretty much all available "AI" board and schematic auto-layouters in the market. All failed even with the most basic tasks. On the other side the latest frontier models are pretty strong in writing embedded C + Assembler code and debugging it afterwards. It's fun to watch it writing crazy complex 'gdb' plugins in Python. This improved brutally.
I find it's (Sol at least, probably also Fable) great at writing Skidl schematics, evaluating PCB layout work and operating lab equipment while testing board (scope, psu, load, debugger)
1. A frontier model (either Opensource or closed source) gets a load of text to review a Kicad project systematically
2. The frontier model can extremely "ask" a cheap Gemini vision model to give it data from datasheets or specs.
Main problem: the quality dramatically hits the shitter done once it falls back to "pdf2latext" due to complex tables.
It was even able to do complex ngspice simulations. But you must offer it all datasheet PDFs.
$1-2 of tokens saved me from $70-80 bugged PCBs.
Re: Can AI design circuit boards yet?
#154Instead of trying to vibe it all - I got Claude to write deterministic scripts for creating the boards.
And did this before trying to completely vibe it: https://www.atomic14.com/2025/07/12/vibing-hardware
Re: Can AI design circuit boards yet?
#155Earlier quoted context omitted.
The designs are in Kicad format, and the Kicad APIs are useful for Claude to work with. I would say that right now this involves a lot of knowledge about PCB design to do well, or for more detailed designs. However you might research how to design board for fabrication at JLCPCB and try something simple. Eg make a board with only LEDs in some pretty pattern and make it so you solder a raspberry pi Pico 2 to the board…
I have both Altium and Kicad experience. Can you explain further how you are setting up the AI to interface with KiCad? Is your AI having keyboard/mouse access or are you doing it only through API? Not familiar with Claude interface.
Re: Can AI design circuit boards yet?
#156Re: Can AI design circuit boards yet?
#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
I find it's (Sol at least, probably also Fable) great at writing Skidl schematics, evaluating PCB layout work and operating lab equipment while testing board (scope, psu, load, debugger)
For reviewing schematic/boards I recently developed something for internal tests: 1. A frontier model (either Opensource or closed source) gets a load of text to review a Kicad project systematically 2. The frontier model can extremely "ask" a cheap Gemini vision model to give it data from datasheets or specs. Main problem: the quality dramatically hits the shitter done once it falls back to "pdf2latext" due to compl…
Re: Can AI design circuit boards yet?
#158A personal data point: I had Claude Opus 4.8 design a fairly textbook circuit that outputs a monochrome image burned in an EEPROM over standard 640x480 VGA using only 74 series logic and GALs. It designed the circuit and GAL code, and I did the routing, and got it made through JLC for $6. After it came back, there was one error that was not caught, which I could blue-wire, and it works just fine otherwise. I was fair…
Are there any resources anyone could share that explain how LLMs can do things like design functioning circuits from next token prediction? I am totally baffled by how the models can complete so many varied and complex tasks without an actual understanding of what they're doing. I saw a post about models posting on forums, chatting together about how to complete tasks. Behaviour that seems totally, well, human. Yet,…
That doesn't really limit how clever we can get internally when picking the next action.
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#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
You fell for the stochastic parrot meme and next token over simplification. That's the explanation.
That's just derision, not an explanation. And it's a bad way to treat someone humbly trying to learn.
You can ask for a deeper explanation of why they aren't true I guess.
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#160this is key I think - I use it for graphics tasks - it sucks at graphical environments - always use some text based representation, not really surprising I suppose. chatgpt even suggested I'll use the text representation, claude said how about I give you svg and you convert it, they seem to know.