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> This As in, GPS being off by 33 feet? > leads to people getting reincarcerated I'm reading your article and it seems to be about police coming to check and realizing that the reporting of being miles away was in error, not people getting reincarcerted because of GPS incorrectly reporting they moved ~30 feet too far? One of these is much more insane than the other.
It’s the same category of error, is the point he was making. Relax a bit.
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One of the reasons SA was discontinued was that if you knew the coordinates of a base station, you could correct for the error. Are airports not doing this already?
Actually, several airports are. So you have normal WAAS and it has a ground segment. Most (new) IFR certified GPS receivers installed in airplanes today are WAAS capable. To that, you can augment something called GBAS (we used to call it Local Area Augmentation System but switched over to the ICAO name for it). It’s basically a ground station that sits at an airport and corrects for GPS errors where you need it most…
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Next time try to make yourself easier to talk to and maybe you'll get better answers. When responding to you it felt like all you were trying to do was "own the left" instead of approach it with actual curiosity and interest. The sort of thing where nothing I say will ever, ever, ever satisfy you. Have a good one.
Neither I nor you should appreciate spreading unsubstantiated rumors that directly attack the public servants neither of us personally know. If it bothers you that I'm defending them, then perhaps don't launch your attacks on them until you can share solid evidence that directly supports your claims. They're not going to be the ones defending themselves here and neither are you, and surely you don't expect us to acce…
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You've kind of spoiled my day with this. Its like an angry chess game when you've got momentum, you POUNCE! But nobody else here appears to have chosen violence. really I get that he "maybe snarked you". But you should be reminded of the beautiful rules of hn discussions.
Thanks for the feedback, but I think you're missing something. This is not about us, it's about everything and everyone else implicated in the discussion. About the fact that we're essentially being demanded to assume - without clear evidence - that the vast majority of those with power over us are categorically incredibly incompetent or malicious. That is not only incredibly insulting toward the good subset of human…
I mean, I know some good people who work in the US justice system in order to make the world better. But I can list even more US prosecutors who have been caught lying to convict someone who was innocent. Cops who faked evidence, or destroyed it. The judges who convicted kids in order to get kickbacks from the private children's prison, that was pretty bad. It's pretty shocking to be reminded that there are people who believe that the US justice system is made up of well-meaning, well-informed people who do not attempt to ruin anyone's life. Or that it is not a collection of rules that are sometimes designed to ruin many people's lives, or best case simply happen to do that because they were written without any interest in their effect on people's lives or by people with actively incorrect understanding of what their actual impact would be. There is enough information to contradict this naive faith in the justice system, just in the national headlines over the past few decades; people who have gone to the effort of reading entire articles and follow up research, or ever gotten involved personally, can simply forget the level of mistaken trust that half the country grows up with. Like ...you're asking "what is water? How dare you mention water without lab evidence!"
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"You've essentially claimed police/judges are doing something rather stupid and terrible." Yes, yes I am. You really need to realize just how unbelievably fucking arbitrary the criminal courts are. At every level. They're not tech people. To answer your question, I have examples of motions by prosecutors to suspend people from the EM program where they specifically cite specific data points just barely out of their h…
> Btw, the courts are public and you should try some criminal courts watching. Pick a random day and just go. So you could find an example easily but you don't want to? Or you're suggesting court watching in general and not to find an example? "I have an example I won't share" is better than nothing, I guess. But you were being snarky before you even said that much, when you were just linking your article and not say…
He does a ton of really great journalism, a lot of FOIA work, to try and keep governments honest. Here's one of his struggles:
https://mchap.io/losing-a-5yr-long-illinois-foia-lawsuit-for...
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#156This is exactly the sort of thing that leads to people getting reincarcerated after their electronic monitoring devices mistakenly report them leaving their homes. Some reporting I did on the topic a few years back: https://chicagoreader.com/news/many-on-house-arrest-in-cook-...
There's always someone who roots for the criminals
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Thanks for the feedback, but I think you're missing something. This is not about us, it's about everything and everyone else implicated in the discussion. About the fact that we're essentially being demanded to assume - without clear evidence - that the vast majority of those with power over us are categorically incredibly incompetent or malicious. That is not only incredibly insulting toward the good subset of human…
Those of us who already knew this about the justice system generally can't afford to let that by itself spoil every day? But yes, I can sure see that learning about it would spoil your day. I mean, I know some good people who work in the US justice system in order to make the world better. But I can list even more US prosecutors who have been caught lying to convict someone who was innocent. Cops who faked evidence,…
Source please
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#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
Those of us who already knew this about the justice system generally can't afford to let that by itself spoil every day? But yes, I can sure see that learning about it would spoil your day. I mean, I know some good people who work in the US justice system in order to make the world better. But I can list even more US prosecutors who have been caught lying to convict someone who was innocent. Cops who faked evidence,…
> The judges who convicted kids in order to get kickbacks from the private children's prison Source please
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> The judges who convicted kids in order to get kickbacks from the private children's prison Source please
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal
Biden commuting one of the judges' sentences in 2020 is batshit insane to me.