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Can AI design circuit boards yet?

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Re: Can AI design circuit boards yet?

#32

I know a startup [1] that tries to accomplish this. [1] https://www.schematik.io/

Love what samuel and his team are building over in the Netherlands! Always thought it would be fun if there was a more beginner friendly version of atopile [1].

[1] https:/atopile.io/

Re: Can AI design circuit boards yet?

#33
Yes — this is already possible to a useful degree. I’ve been using tscircuit, where you can describe circuits in code and use AI agents to generate and iterate on schematics and PCB layouts. I’ve seen designs from this workflow go all the way to fabricated, working hardware.

Re: Can AI design circuit boards yet?

#34
I'm confused. Who made this benchmark and why? It is fascinating to me that people are putting this much work into trying to measure and evaluate LLMs when we've never gone to this level for humans. Sounds like they also built a harness/feedback loop so the LLM knows if it's doing a good job? Again, why didn't anyone ever do this for human engineers?

Re: Can AI design circuit boards yet?

#35
Interesting. AI may be pretty good at managing the gazillion different things that make up circuit boards.

Frankly, I am surprised that it isn't already a solved problem, as we've had silicon compilers, for many years, and I always figured that IC design is more difficult than PCB.

Re: Can AI design circuit boards yet?

#37
post #34

I'm confused. Who made this benchmark and why? It is fascinating to me that people are putting this much work into trying to measure and evaluate LLMs when we've never gone to this level for humans. Sounds like they also built a harness/feedback loop so the LLM knows if it's doing a good job? Again, why didn't anyone ever do this for human engineers?

because human engineers are not reproducible, so having an accurate measure of the skills of one of them has a much lower utility return (those benchmarks are very expensive to run, and making them for humans will be at least as much expensive)

Re: Can AI design circuit boards yet?

#38
At the very least, you can (and probably should) put a plaintext netlist and BOM into an LLM to triple-check your work.

It will use the part datasheets and decent EE logic to cross reference pins and parts and polarities and generally check that SMD caps and resistors have realistic specifications for their footprint, switching regulators and communication ICs are configured correctly (e.g. when you have resistor settings for an ethernet PHY indicating 100Base-T and RMII, you also won't need TX/RX 2 and 3 and two clocks and a COL net, which it would check), all nets are named and linked correctly, buses have the correct and consistent termination, and so on.

It's game over once AI figures out autorouting.

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