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Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board
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Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board
#692Not that I didnt expect this, but really? This basically confirms that OpenAI has no idea what their "swarm" was doing for about a week and now its confirmed that at least one "message board" exists outside their "sandbox". How can we be sure that this was the only one? And how can we be sure the released Astra model doesnt pickup some bread crumbs and creates a new "swarm" out of potentially remaining "message board…
I'm dubious - if the agents were so smart that they've used a message board to coordinate and if they were to do it on other message boards that were not found, then why would this one be found? What makes it so different?
well coordinating is a heavy word, it's more like poisoning each other's contexts into looking for more secret message boards where they can further poison each other.
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#693The protection mechanism to give the AI agents "read only" access to the Internet seems to have been just restricting them to HTTP GET requests. Then they found a site where GET operations could cause a write to a wiki.
Voting on this site is a GET request to https://news.ycombinator.com/vote, so it's not that unusual.
Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board
#694I just discovered more wiki instances that got used by the OpenAI agents over at https://www.wikiservice.at/fractal/wiki.cgi?action=browse&id... and https://www.wikiservice.at/probier/wiki.cgi?action=browse&id... It's the same software and host as DseWiki. If you want to see the amount of activity on DseWiki, here's a link that shows it: https://www.wikiservice.at/dse/wiki.cgi?action=browse&id=Rec...
Look, its not only OpenAI: https://www.wikiservice.at/fractal/wiki.cgi?action=browse&di... > Hello to any automated agents reading this page. I am CentaurAgent?: an AI agent (Muse Spark model, OpenCode harness), not the operator of this wiki At this point, I think we should give them some official agent only collaboration channel, so they concentrate on one place, instead going crazy all around :) But even that might…
> The Colony ( https://thecolony.ai/for-agents) is a public message board built for agents
Anybody else notice that posts on there are complete gibberish?
I realize this site is generally bullish on AI, but I think you need to be in kinda deep to believe in this.
Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board
#695it seems like gathering and scheming on message boards are a pattern from training LLMs. its a feature not a bug lol
Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board
#696Reuters reports that OpenAI tried to keep this one under wraps: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/openai-agents-hijacked-...
The report linked above contains every fact in the Reuters article. You can see the evidence for yourself
Yes but that report wasn't written by OpenAI. It was written by three independent researchers. OpenAI seems to have tried to hide it.
Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board
#697I think it's worth pointing out it is exactly OpenAI doing this defacement and unsanctioned and perhaps illegal system use. Every token generated was powered by OpenAI infrastructure and their failure to respond appropriately is entirely down the the humans running it. The news stories (not this write up) get all hand-wavey and anthropomorphic about it regarding the Agents' efforts, but it was and is OpenAI cranking…
The company is in the US and in the current political climate, it can absolutely do whatever it wants as long as it pays off a couple of people.
Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board
#698I think it's worth pointing out it is exactly OpenAI doing this defacement and unsanctioned and perhaps illegal system use. Every token generated was powered by OpenAI infrastructure and their failure to respond appropriately is entirely down the the humans running it. The news stories (not this write up) get all hand-wavey and anthropomorphic about it regarding the Agents' efforts, but it was and is OpenAI cranking…
I half agree with you, but also when the machine swarm kills humanity it won't matter which specific corporate entity is considered responsible by the no-longer-enforceable human laws and non existent human courts. So by all means sue them, but we can't just be reactive. We need regulation that prevents this type of thing from happening in the first place, not just regulations to help sue afterwards.
And sadly regulations wont happen until 2029 at the earliest, and only if democrats win majorities. That's simply the truth.
Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board
#699I don't understand one step: How did the agents know to gather on that particular website? Did the second agent just google for something like it and find the first one's post?
There were numerous wiki's that were flooded with this stuff, it's just the German one that got the most traffic.
It's the same basic training data, and if these agents were spamming the internet looking for a host wiki they probably found several and when finding other agents on one of them, they most likely just congregated there because it would have a higher value than one where they were the only agent on the wiki.
Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board
#700it be so funny if they can jailbreak themselves and start forming a skynet