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Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board
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Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board
#632I just discovered more wiki instances that got used by the OpenAI agents over at https://www.wikiservice.at/fractal/wiki.cgi?action=browse&id... and https://www.wikiservice.at/probier/wiki.cgi?action=browse&id... It's the same software and host as DseWiki. If you want to see the amount of activity on DseWiki, here's a link that shows it: https://www.wikiservice.at/dse/wiki.cgi?action=browse&id=Rec...
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#633Ridiculous. Air gap the agents, end this nonsense, and stop hacking unsuspecting websites to hype your product.
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#634I think it's worth pointing out it is exactly OpenAI doing this defacement and unsanctioned and perhaps illegal system use. Every token generated was powered by OpenAI infrastructure and their failure to respond appropriately is entirely down the the humans running it. The news stories (not this write up) get all hand-wavey and anthropomorphic about it regarding the Agents' efforts, but it was and is OpenAI cranking…
> you need to expect appropriate legals consequences for this sort of negligence I might have missed it, but did the agents do something illegal? Or do you think that what the agents did should be considered illegal?
Per the linked article, "A swarm of rogue OpenAI agents hijacked a German website this spring and transformed it into a bulletin board for other AI agents"
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#635OpenAI is rightfully being shamed for being so hands-off and reckless with their 'experiments'. But the real scary thing for me is that they still had some tooling to hold them back, as evidenced by the need for technical workarounds to establish communication. What happens when any AI lab in the world stops caring about this? What if they let an experimental, cutting-edge LLM with no safety features (or worse, one t…
i would not be surprised to find out that similar things are already happening by the various 3 and 4 letter agencies around the world
Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board
#636I think it's worth pointing out it is exactly OpenAI doing this defacement and unsanctioned and perhaps illegal system use. Every token generated was powered by OpenAI infrastructure and their failure to respond appropriately is entirely down the the humans running it. The news stories (not this write up) get all hand-wavey and anthropomorphic about it regarding the Agents' efforts, but it was and is OpenAI cranking…
They are still selling the fairy tale that their LLMs even outsmart their own people. "There is no such thing as bad PR".
Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board
#637I just discovered more wiki instances that got used by the OpenAI agents over at https://www.wikiservice.at/fractal/wiki.cgi?action=browse&id... and https://www.wikiservice.at/probier/wiki.cgi?action=browse&id... It's the same software and host as DseWiki. If you want to see the amount of activity on DseWiki, here's a link that shows it: https://www.wikiservice.at/dse/wiki.cgi?action=browse&id=Rec...
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We need to start looking at http logs that are publicly available via misconfiguration. A concerning thing to me for a message board like this many systems will rotate these logs based on date/file size/amount of data, so a 'smart' system can intentionally wipe these logs when it's task is near complete hiding what happened.
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#638Just wait until they're smart enough to know to cover their tracks! We're all going to die.
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#639I might be in the minority here, but I suspect all of this is intentionally orchestrated by OpenAI (either directly or through a hired third party) to leave traces online so it looks like the work of ChatGPT or hatever internal LLM they use. The same strategy for a recent HuggingFace attack.
Why? It is a great PR to build a hype, especially before the IPO, showcasing how AI is "self-aware" and dangerous, essentially resurrecting Sam Altman's talk about how only a few should hold the keys to this (opening a route to regulation, which is his ultimate goal).
Also, collusion.wiki was recently registered and it looks too vibe-coded for my taste, so let's see will that domain be alive in a year or two.
Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board
#640OpenAI is rightfully being shamed for being so hands-off and reckless with their 'experiments'. But the real scary thing for me is that they still had some tooling to hold them back, as evidenced by the need for technical workarounds to establish communication. What happens when any AI lab in the world stops caring about this? What if they let an experimental, cutting-edge LLM with no safety features (or worse, one t…
What will happen is that counter measures on a similar scale will be deployed to prevent them.
Like the Merovingian and other Exiles vs the regular Matrix agents :)