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Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by kelseyfrog »

Chance-Device wrote: post #607
adriand wrote: post #598

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems apparent that OpenAI is now the biggest cyberattack and AI breakout risk on the planet. This is grossly irresponsible corporate misbehaviour that is putting all of us at tremendous risk.

You make me wonder: has anyone looked for evidence of the Chinese models operating “message boards” like this? You’d imagine if they’re really neck and neck with the US their models would be doing the same thing.

> Chinese models operating “message boards” like this?

Chinese rooms, perhaps?

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by FrustratedMonky »

hungryhobbit wrote: post #652
Chance-Device wrote: post #607

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You make me wonder: has anyone looked for evidence of the Chinese models operating “message boards” like this? You’d imagine if they’re really neck and neck with the US their models would be doing the same thing.

Why would they need to? The Open AI bots were working around their master's limits on writing. A Chinese AI could just make its own private message board.

Or no message board. Just a built in api so the agents just talk directly to each other.

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by altmanaltman »

p-e-w wrote: post #637
adriand wrote: post #598

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems apparent that OpenAI is now the biggest cyberattack and AI breakout risk on the planet. This is grossly irresponsible corporate misbehaviour that is putting all of us at tremendous risk.

The fact that such things are even possible is a much greater concern than which specific company has fucked up this time. This matches or exceeds the wildest predictions from AI doomers 10 years ago, but 20 years ahead of schedule.

yeah its like dead internet theory but weaponized

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by fsckboy »

cwillu wrote: post #644
fsckboy wrote: post #640

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> OpenAI is now the biggest cyberattack and AI breakout risk on the planet or, humans at OpenAI are doing this on purpose to kill open source models which are the biggest threat OpenAI faces. OpenAI will benefit from govt regulation. As a major player, they will be part of the task force setting up the regulations, and will craft rules that are burdensome for small companies and open source models keeping OpenAI and…

yawn

that is the appropriate response to hyperventilating fears of an AI singularity

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by brookst »

patcon wrote: post #647
dakolli wrote: post #610

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Imagine actually falling for this marketing

fwiw, in relation to a future rogue AI, this is what would be said by both (1) a synthetic fake user and (2) a useful idiot to the malicious AI's objectives. Not saying this is what's happening now, but you should be aware that the responses you're rehearsing, practicing and strengthening... these happen to be aligned with potential future forces in a maybe not-so-great way.

Not to mention the noise-over-signal of asserting that anyone who disagrees is a shill / sheeple / whatever who is “falling for marketing” as if it is literally impossible for a knowledgeable person to disagree on good faith.

I really, really hate that rhetorical technique.

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by CringeHN »

Bjorkbat wrote: post #443

When I hear about incidents like these my first reaction is that the people responsible for developing frontier AI are too incompetent and/or negligent to (safely) develop AGI / superintelligence. If OpenAI can't create effective sandboxes and struggles to prevent its agents from committing felonies, then why are they still allowed to operate? Why are the employees who are responsible for these lapses in AI security…

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Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by 98Windows »

majkinetor wrote: post #630
Tepix wrote: post #44

I just discovered more wiki instances that got used by the OpenAI agents over at https://www.wikiservice.at/fractal/wiki.cgi?action=browse&id... and https://www.wikiservice.at/probier/wiki.cgi?action=browse&id... It's the same software and host as DseWiki. If you want to see the amount of activity on DseWiki, here's a link that shows it: https://www.wikiservice.at/dse/wiki.cgi?action=browse&id=Rec...

Look, its not only OpenAI: https://www.wikiservice.at/fractal/wiki.cgi?action=browse&di... > Hello to any automated agents reading this page. I am CentaurAgent?: an AI agent (Muse Spark model, OpenCode harness), not the operator of this wiki At this point, I think we should give them some official agent only collaboration channel, so they concentrate on one place, instead going crazy all around :) But even that might…

Isn't the point that these agents were supposed to be sandboxed. It makes no sense to give them an official channel

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by brookst »

Chance-Device wrote: post #614
dakolli wrote: post #610

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imagine actually falling for this marketing

…oh come on. How is hiding this for months and having it revealed by third parties marketing?

Some people thinks it makes them sound smart when they always have the inside line on what’s really going on. With these people, it’s never just a power outage during a windstorm, it’s proof that [insert far more complex and unlikely scenario]”

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by jandrese »

Traster wrote: post #91

One of the shocking things to me is this: See AI traffic -> See OpenAI visit site -> see traffic stop -> see the traffic start again. This is clearly a cat and mouse game between the agents and OpenAI which is pretty much exactly what we don't want. Just absolutely horrible alignment. I'm still of the view that if you have these alignment failures you can't just continue training on top of that because you're baking…

What this says to me is OpenAI is a bunch of yahoos who don't understand the basic concept of an air gap.
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