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Google AI Mode shows same products 21.6% more expensive than traditional search

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Re: Google AI Mode shows same products 21.6% more expensive than traditional search

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I wonder when dynamic pricing based on the users chat history will be a thing. The users context based of LLM conversation should be way more detailed compared to traditional cookie tracking. Also buyers manipulation could be done at some point. Pretty scary to think about

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Re: Google AI Mode shows same products 21.6% more expensive than traditional search

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It's not a trick. What you receive as shipping or taxes on google shopping are not the final ones, google doesn't have your full address, neither doesn't have info from the merchant for all taxes (depends on the country) and shipping applied to the product to all possible locations.

What do you mean Google doesn’t have my full address? :)

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Re: Google AI Mode shows same products 21.6% more expensive than traditional search

#53

It's crazy how getting the best deals online is still a unsolved problem. Google product page was garbage even before AI, most aggregators are a complete farce as well, either displaying deals that are out of date or completely unrelated items, and let's not even get started with price tracking... You'd think of all the companies, Google would be the best one to come up with a good solution for deal hunting but no...…

I made pretty good experienes with some of these popular price watching websites in my region; for typical day to day stuff, they work great.

For special things, I look up the current pricing landscape anyway.

Re: Google AI Mode shows same products 21.6% more expensive than traditional search

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not a trick. What you receive as shipping or taxes on google shopping are not the final ones, google doesn't have your full address, neither doesn't have info from the merchant for all taxes (depends on the country) and shipping applied to the product to all possible locations.

What do you mean Google doesn’t have my full address? :)

There are very strict protections in place surrounding software’s use of a users address info. It’s not just a library call to access it (which the Shopping UI might do). Requires explicit user opt in on a per feature basis.

Re: Google AI Mode shows same products 21.6% more expensive than traditional search

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It's crazy how getting the best deals online is still a unsolved problem. Google product page was garbage even before AI, most aggregators are a complete farce as well, either displaying deals that are out of date or completely unrelated items, and let's not even get started with price tracking... You'd think of all the companies, Google would be the best one to come up with a good solution for deal hunting but no...…

It's worse. It's in Google's interest to auction ad spots at the highest price. That's it. Nothing else matters. The content needs to be vaguely legal, the quality or any other product feature doesn't matter. Another platform, Facebook, makes about 10% of its income from scams. No manager or executive will willingly reduce their company's income by 10%.

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Re: Google AI Mode shows same products 21.6% more expensive than traditional search

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They’re using “traditional search” to mean the shopping specific search widget or page, which is a separate feature from traditional search. It aggregates retailer listings and sorts them by price. The AI mode is based on normal top search results, which are oriented toward information about the product like the manufacturer’s page, which is usually going to be full MSRP. So technically correct that the AI mode is no…

It's not a trick. What you receive as shipping or taxes on google shopping are not the final ones, google doesn't have your full address, neither doesn't have info from the merchant for all taxes (depends on the country) and shipping applied to the product to all possible locations.

Holy gaslighting! Why do more reputable sites which don’t rank highly in the shopping results not have this problem? It’s specific to using the shopping results from search engines, I didn’t recently get any “surprise fee” on the Polk Audio manufacturer website directly, for example

Re: Google AI Mode shows same products 21.6% more expensive than traditional search

#57
Started with a theory that it might be a possibility where google as a Ad business is trying to make money for their AI expenses from consumer. However after verifying the results for the items mentioned in the article plus some more and I DO NOT see any discrepancy in prices with either mode.

Dont want to call it clickbait right away, though its possible that it might be there before and Google fixed it OR the Author did not perform an apple to apple comparison, meaning its hard to verify if its same location and machine for both types of searches

Re: Google AI Mode shows same products 21.6% more expensive than traditional search

#58
Not clear to me: is the product _actually_ 21.6% more expensive when searched for with AI, or is AI just incorrectly showing a more expensive price? In other words, are prices dynamically modified depending on whether the original query is search vs AI?

Re: Google AI Mode shows same products 21.6% more expensive than traditional search

#59
AI mode doesn't even search. I'll ask it to find a blog post or article that I remember reading recently. It often just fails to find it. But when it does, it'll mention the title and say to just go to the link to it. But it never gives me the link. This is a literal response I got from AI mode (with titles swapped out):

> If you search the term "" or "" on Hacker News or Google, you will find the exact write-up and the massive threads of founders sharing matching horror stories.

Of course, there are no threads on HackerNews for that if you search it. My response was to just google for me, and it links me to a random novel that doesn't even match the titles suggested.

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