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Re: IBM Bob

#101

The landing/marketing page for this looks like something someone promoted/vibe coded including the Bob mascot. Looks awful from a design perspective. Had to double check that this was the actual IBM domain

It's puzzling, considering they made some strides towards improving their design language and systems in past years, which produced IBM Plex etc. under Mike Abbink.

They have a decent component system with Carbon[0] and a whole design principles website[1] which they could have easily pointed their LLM of choice to.

Even the ibm.com landing page isn't close to the design system spec, rounded corners and whatnot...

[0] https://preview.carbondesignsystem.com/ [1] https://www.ibm.com/design/language/

Re: IBM Bob

#102
post #16

This sounds a lot like Spotify's XIRP. They managed to vibe something useful for their own engineers, were super hyped, and decided to release it in public. However what are the odds this harness will stand the test of time against actual harness makers like OpenAI or Anthropic? Neither Spotify or IBM are focused on making models or harnesses, these are just side-products.

IBM is training their own models (for instance IBM granite) as well as watsonx as a platform. They are trying to build a products for enterprise as well as their specific AI modernization models.

Re: IBM Bob

#105

The companies who are hoarding RAM to produce pointless products should be called out. Deprive working class from computing resources to sell some corporate crap. Get fucked.

If they produce pointless products then they will lose money.

Re: IBM Bob

#106

Is this just a harness or using a proprietary model in the background? Anthropic and OpenAI are already very well trained in IBM system i and z knowledge. Unless Bob is somehow improving the integration to these midrange and mainframe systems I literally dont see any benefit to using Bob. IBM will just kill this proprietary tech in 5 years as they are currently doing with RDi or forget about updating it like SEU.

I think it's just a harness that uses proprietary (or maybe IBM is hosting open weight?) models. They say on the site (in the FAQs) that you can't even choose which model!

So it seems to be a harness that auto-routes your queries with no way to change this.

Re: IBM Bob

#108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IBM hasn't made a product that works since Db2 so I am fairly confident this is a flaming pile of garbage.

No, you are wrong. IBMer here. I was at first agains it, my background is for 2 decades startup(s) before I joined IBM, and I started slowly using IBM Bob and I must say it is really good and helping. With many integrations that works :)

Lol

Re: IBM Bob

#109
post #106

Is this just a harness or using a proprietary model in the background? Anthropic and OpenAI are already very well trained in IBM system i and z knowledge. Unless Bob is somehow improving the integration to these midrange and mainframe systems I literally dont see any benefit to using Bob. IBM will just kill this proprietary tech in 5 years as they are currently doing with RDi or forget about updating it like SEU.

I think it's just a harness that uses proprietary (or maybe IBM is hosting open weight?) models. They say on the site (in the FAQs) that you can't even choose which model! So it seems to be a harness that auto-routes your queries with no way to change this.

You are correct. It routes to the model best suited for the ask.

The only positive versus others is that at an enterprise level you have more control of the costs with the coins.

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