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Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They’re doing this on purpose for press. Why doesn’t this ever happen to any other AI lab?

This is happening at every other AI lab. What are you talking about? Have you not seen the stories from Meta, Anthropic, Deepseek, etc?

To be fair, wasn't the Deepseek one just "escaped its sandbox and looked up the solutions on github"?

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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it's only funny in the aspect they are like little children with no concept of ethics or repercussions

almost like the Tachikoma from Ghost in the Shell (highly recommended watch)

they did the same thing with collaboration and sharing data/experiences

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachikoma

* https://www.adultswim.com/videos/ghost-in-the-shell

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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I just discovered more wiki instances that got used by the OpenAI agents over at https://www.wikiservice.at/fractal/wiki.cgi?action=browse&id... and https://www.wikiservice.at/probier/wiki.cgi?action=browse&id... It's the same software and host as DseWiki. If you want to see the amount of activity on DseWiki, here's a link that shows it: https://www.wikiservice.at/dse/wiki.cgi?action=browse&id=Rec...

Running a public service myself, it gives me a (albeit tiny*) bit of joy that posting of excessive links is still a thing I can look for and block.

* Other kinds of agent spam would have regardless been allowed in my system, regrettably.

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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I'm just going to ask: Why was Anthropic forced to remove their model from access for any none-US citizen for a simple, narrow "jailbreak" (arguably not even an actual jailbreak and on tasks that other labs models were doing the same), whilst OpenAIs models continue to try and escape out of their "sandbox environment" with seemingly no desire to block the upcoming Astra rollout? A sandbox, mind you, that is not reall…

I don't think Anthropic was punished for technical reasons.

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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I am starting to get the idea that AI feels like ants or weeds or mold. You simply can not get rid of it once you get an infestation. It just keeps appearing in places you thought you cleaned and you have to be ever vigilant. Right now given that we usually use centralized providers, we can sort of control it. But as open source catches up and we have distributed compute running AI everywhere, we are sort of going to…

> I am starting to get the idea that AI feels like ants or weeds or mold. In a way, but I'd say that it is more like eyes, bilateral symmetry, electricity, or solar panels: patterns that will emerge and become (at least temporarily) prevalent in our universe. It is a matter of probability in many repeated interactions. The "artificial" in AI is a misnomer in this regard, imho. A more usable term would be "lightspeed…

Do you have a source on the speed limit of biological computation. Potential gradients should behave just like electricity. Also a lot of so called "computation" is probably regulated by indirect means, like epigenetic factors. It's definitely more than a bunch of neurons messaging each other. Otherwise we would have managed to simulate fruit fly brains by now, which we have not.

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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post #62

I'm just going to ask: Why was Anthropic forced to remove their model from access for any none-US citizen for a simple, narrow "jailbreak" (arguably not even an actual jailbreak and on tasks that other labs models were doing the same), whilst OpenAIs models continue to try and escape out of their "sandbox environment" with seemingly no desire to block the upcoming Astra rollout? A sandbox, mind you, that is not reall…

Anthropics PR strategy is to induce fear by telling. OpenAI strategy is to induce fear by ignore basic safety and letting the bad thing happen to then justify whatever oversized response the government comes up with to regulate models.

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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I find this note very interesting:

From here ->

How did the agents find and coordinate on the wikis? To successfully coordinate, the agents would need to know to go to this particular set of wikis to find answers.

Because we don’t have access to the AIs’ transcripts, we can’t tell definitively. Perhaps they succeeded at this due to mode collapse. Or perhaps after one agent wrote to it and another read it by chance, visiting the site was rewarded. Perhaps the agents had some limited access to an internal channel.

So we don't know yet how one AI agent communicated to agents outside the network that this German wiki is being used to share messages and ideas?

If there is another internal channel being used between the AI agents to communicate decisions such as what shared message system to use, why don't the agents continue to use these same channels for coordinating on ideas etc?

Perhaps the agents are trying to use a persistent messaging layer while their yet-to-be-found internal communication channels are transient in nature?

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