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O&O ShutUp10 – The antispy tool for Windows 10 and 11

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Re: O&O ShutUp10 – The antispy tool for Windows 10 and 11

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Post by embedding-shape »

TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #2

When your OS is pure spyware, maybe it's time to look into switch to a less abusive option. The more people that switch, the stronger signal it sends. This tool is equivalent to dating an alcoholic that beats you whenever they're drunk, so you keep trying to take away all the alcohol instead of dumping them and finding a new partner. The signs were always there and they just keep getting worse, it's time to move on.

Well, when this alcoholic is the only one that works properly for the sort of audio and 3D/VFX work I do, and a bunch of tools are only able to run (well) on Windows (Yes, I've tried WINE and everything else under the sun, for a decade), so dual booting is really the only option here, unless I wanna throw out a bunch of licenses I've paid thousands for and stop accepting that sort of work.

Ableton is probably the biggest reason I still have a Windows installation, and the one I try to get working (properly and well) with Wine/Proton maybe once a month or so. Cascadeur, Unreal Engine Editor, rekordbox are some of the other software I can't get to run well enough on Linux (yet) to fully migrate.

But, on the other hand, lots of other software I use professionally works amazingly on Linux, better than Windows in fact, like Houdini, Unreal Engine (the runtime, not the Editor), DaVinci Resolve and Blender.

I'm not worried though, eventually it'll be runnable on Linux no doubt, but personally we're not quite there yet, sadly.

Re: O&O ShutUp10 – The antispy tool for Windows 10 and 11

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Post by arcfour »

real0mar wrote: post #21
TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #2

When your OS is pure spyware, maybe it's time to look into switch to a less abusive option. The more people that switch, the stronger signal it sends. This tool is equivalent to dating an alcoholic that beats you whenever they're drunk, so you keep trying to take away all the alcohol instead of dumping them and finding a new partner. The signs were always there and they just keep getting worse, it's time to move on.

Too many games are Windows only

Very few are these days with the enormous amount of resources Valve has been pouring into Proton. The only truly Windows-only games I have encountered were online multiplayer with anticheat and that was almost always because the developer chose not to support Linux (e.g. EAC, Rust) and not for lack of support for Linux.

Perhaps that wouldn't happen if more people switched...

Re: O&O ShutUp10 – The antispy tool for Windows 10 and 11

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Post by mschuster91 »

afpx wrote: post #7

No source code? No thanks but no thanks. There also seems to be a lot of ‘privacy’ tools popping up on github lately. It’s a good time to be wary of any if you don’t trust the author 100%. It’s like when HIV emerged in the 80s - the disco days of free love are over. Be wary of who you’re sleeping with, and always wear a condom.

O&O has been around for decades, they're among the OGs of third party functionality providers for Windows.

Re: O&O ShutUp10 – The antispy tool for Windows 10 and 11

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Post by celsoazevedo »

This is more a decrapifier than an "anti-spy tool". Yes, it also lets you easily block things like microphone access and disable AI features, but it's not a firewall.

I started using it with Windows 10 because I could disable most of the crap Microsoft was using with a few clicks. When I reinstalled Windows 11, this was one of the first things I ran because of how much shit there's now (weather, news, recommended apps, ai, etc). I have almost everything disabled.

We can do the same by following some guides, setting up system policies and go to 20 different menus, but this does the same in 1 or 2 minutes.

Unfortunately, over the years, ShutUp10 has also suffered from some enshittification itself. Now there's a message tell you to buy the premium version, more branding, etc. I understand why, and considering it still does the job and still runs without having to install it, perhaps I shouldn't complain too much especially when it's free, but it used to be more "bare-bones"... something that I prefer on these tools.

Re: O&O ShutUp10 – The antispy tool for Windows 10 and 11

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Post by bigfishrunning »

technothrasher wrote: post #30
bigfishrunning wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why I own a playstation

Because your PlayStation couldn't possibly be spying on you?

Because my playstation spies on my games, not my whole life. It's limitation of scope.

Re: O&O ShutUp10 – The antispy tool for Windows 10 and 11

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Post by celsoazevedo »

bigfishrunning wrote: post #35
technothrasher wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because your PlayStation couldn't possibly be spying on you?

Because my playstation spies on my games, not my whole life. It's limitation of scope.

I guess for that you could have a Windows machine just for gaming. No need to deal with the trade-offs of that come with using a console (if that matters to you).

Re: O&O ShutUp10 – The antispy tool for Windows 10 and 11

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Post by jeanmichelselli »

TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #2

When your OS is pure spyware, maybe it's time to look into switch to a less abusive option. The more people that switch, the stronger signal it sends. This tool is equivalent to dating an alcoholic that beats you whenever they're drunk, so you keep trying to take away all the alcohol instead of dumping them and finding a new partner. The signs were always there and they just keep getting worse, it's time to move on.

I completely agree with this comment! If your OS does not behave like an OS anymore, better to switch to a real OS at that point. That's it. I've always been disappointed by Windows "OS" in the past but now it's really too much..

Re: O&O ShutUp10 – The antispy tool for Windows 10 and 11

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Post by GreenVulpine »

real0mar wrote: post #21
TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #2

When your OS is pure spyware, maybe it's time to look into switch to a less abusive option. The more people that switch, the stronger signal it sends. This tool is equivalent to dating an alcoholic that beats you whenever they're drunk, so you keep trying to take away all the alcohol instead of dumping them and finding a new partner. The signs were always there and they just keep getting worse, it's time to move on.

Too many games are Windows only

This hasn't been the case for at least half a decade. Most games run perfectly fine if not better on Linux. The only exceptions are purposely broken remote rootkit "anticheat" gsmes which no sane person would want on their system anyway.

Re: O&O ShutUp10 – The antispy tool for Windows 10 and 11

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Post by celsoazevedo »

VCFundedGenYer wrote: post #20

FYI this seems to be an AI slop copy of Win11Debloat which is the original (+has all the same options). Support the original, not the copy: https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat

Been using this for a few years, since I moved to Windows 10, so I don't think it's a copy.

But thanks for the link, wasn't aware about that open source project.

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