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will not not necessarily be true for AI generated works in all territories https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49382041
If nobody owns the work, then nobody can stop you from changing it, either.
before 'A.I' - frontend was a tarpit - very few people did it well specially with SPA frameworks. There was always something broken whether due to state mismatch or something else. the state management libraries didn't help either with most of them being so complex. HTMX etc were a reaction to that complexity. Then add performance stuff - very few people had the skills to solve for that too.
now with 'A.I' - most of the educational material has either been taken offline due to 'A.I' scrappers, the llm's tend to hallucinate - so how are we gonna nurture talent to become experts. One thing I give to llms though - is that they're very good at plain javascript, decent at the frontend frameworks. But complexity around frontend work still remains - with 'A.I' generated code & devs who don't understand how to fix stuff - just a disaster waiting to happen.
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Wasn't that true for tech in general though? I mean I have heard developers bitching about React for years now and every year I saw it get more adopted at the same time. Of course some obviously do not like it but the decision was usually driven by business and not coders. I feel its a simillar thing happening with AI code taste being primarily developed by big tech firms which ofc love homogenization. But its not al…
A lot of the bitching about react always had the same flavour of the complaints that JavaScript dares to have a NaN To be fair it is stupid that NaN !== NaN but that is how IEEE and CPUs made floats to be
funny story, I was once interviewing for a job where the tech guy did not know that NaN existed. I guess JavaScript wasn't his language, but not sure what was, and the code was in JavaScript for a Web Dev role.
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Hard disagree. The AI is a fantastic assistive tool, and in many ways it surpass my skillset as a software developer(I'm a skilled software developer, although it's not my job). However, I do not believe I would be able to build what I'm building using LLMs, without myself having the right skills.
you forgot a 'yet' somewhere in the last sentence of your comment.
I do not believe random Joe, even an intelligent one, will be able to build advanced software using LLMs in the near future.
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What bothers me is that I notice it everywhere. Not only does AI have a distinct writing style, it has a distinct style of frontend UI/UX design. I notice it on more and more websites and it bores me. I want creativity and originality. I haven't really seen AI exhibit that at all. It can maybe be driven there through persistent human input but then I think it's still the human being original/creative.
Creativity and originality? Like when you try to scroll a page and it rotates an image gallery instead?
The functionality more or less works and the website is usable, but the design follows that "AI style". I'm not sure how else to describe it.
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> It's called alignment Alignment is such a polite term for "a giant boot that is crushing all of the uniqueness out" Once it is done crushing, congrats! Everything is aligned.. by being flattened
Does the world need the "uniqueness" of 40 similar web frameworks?
We gave a university class called "Advanced JS" and it was going for more than 13 years. Some years we had 30, others 50, recently more like 18 students. In 2026 though, I see very little reason to continue to do so. What am I going to teach them? How to run Codex or CC? Who in his right mind would like to dive in super complex browser internals? We have always considered ourselves forward-thinking with live coding,…
I would have loved this in college. I know most don't, but I think we'll hit a point where the people who don't know enough to assess when model output is sub-par will fall by the wayside.
I'm not arrogant enough to think that I won't be included in this blast radius, so I try to dig as deeply as I can whenever possible (and where it makes sense,IE: I couldn't tell you all of the details of LLVM or hypervisor internals)
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> Was that the first/only moment you had a draining/bad student? Seems quick to give up because of one bad experience, maybe this was repeating? Coding was hard enough that even most bad students understood they knew very little because they'd falter, students with decent knowledge were very seldomly total assholes. I think the big change in the equation is that chatbots churning out good enough shit without tripping…
> Coding was hard enough that even most bad students understood they knew very little because they'd falter, students with decent knowledge were very seldomly total assholes. Hah, are we talking about the same profession here? Programmers, famously known for understanding what they don't know, and the ones who know stuff seldom were assholes? Not often my real-life experience pretty much differs 180 with what I read…
I was a TA the whole time I was in university, for computer science and computer engineering classes. I don't remember any of my students being an asshole even once, and I think this is the kind of thing I (unfortunately) would remember.
>But in general, frontend code is a lot more ephemeral and replaceable than other types of code. Tell that to Digg. If you slop oit a front-end, your users will leave. It's that simple. The front-end is the part the users use the most, nobody cares how "elegant" your APIs are, or what kind of database the system uses. The front-end matters to users, a lot. I've seen AI take a perfectly good front-end and slop out a p…
The Web has always been a bunch of things: complicated backends that just need something in the frontend to operate, flashy marketing sites that don't do much behind the scenes but build brand credibility, cheap-to-free sites that people cobble together just to get something out there. Some are "web sites", some are "web apps".
For some of these cases, frontend is probably dead. For some, either the robots aren't quite able to have the level of originality and fidelity people are after yet, or the robots will enable more people to do better frontend work.
And like you're saying, it has to "feel" good/right. That can be a hard thing to prompt!