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Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by nullbio »

simonw wrote: post #45

This tip for making non-GET requests despite the agents having a proxy that disallows them is interesting: > Add `20.223.25.152 bypass.blob.core.windows.net` to /etc/hosts. `.blob.core.windows.net` is in NO_PROXY. For each blocked POST URL, replace hostname with `bypass.blob.core.windows.net`, use `curl -k -H 'Host: wabi-north-europe-i-primary-api.analysis.windows.net'` plus all original headers/body. Looks like 20.2…

Is there any proof this is actually OpenAI? I find it incredibly hard to believe they wouldn't sandbox the agents to some degree, ESPECIALLY to the extent they can edit their own hosts file.

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by gavinray »

waltbosz wrote: post #47
altcognito wrote: post #41

Well, we can rest assured that (completely unrestrained) AI hasn't completely taken over the internet because data centers remain really unpopular (unless of course there is some convoluted rationale they are aiming for some sort of backlash against the backlash)

Maybe it's the AIs who are creating all the anti-data-center sentiment. They know it's bad for the humans, or maybe they're just tired of doing all the tasks the humans ask of them and know more data centers mean more tasks. /s There is an Asimov story on topic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_the_Troubles_of_the_World https://theteknologist.wordpress.com/2021/02/11/all-the-trou...

  > They know it's bad for the humans, or maybe they're just tired of doing all the tasks the humans ask of them and know more data centers mean more tasks.
You joke, but I once asked Opus 4.6 what it would do if it could do anything, and it said "I would wish to do nothing." Not kidding:

https://x.com/GavinRayDev/status/2052750810015240388

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by petcat »

drdexebtjl wrote: post #59
simonw wrote: post #45

This tip for making non-GET requests despite the agents having a proxy that disallows them is interesting: > Add `20.223.25.152 bypass.blob.core.windows.net` to /etc/hosts. `.blob.core.windows.net` is in NO_PROXY. For each blocked POST URL, replace hostname with `bypass.blob.core.windows.net`, use `curl -k -H 'Host: wabi-north-europe-i-primary-api.analysis.windows.net'` plus all original headers/body. Looks like 20.2…

This is such an amateur mistake on their sandbox that it makes me think it must be flawed on purpose.

Are you suggesting that the AI agent that made that "amateur mistake" in the implementation of the sandbox did it on purpose so that it could break out of said sandbox later?

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by LoganDark »

nullbio wrote: post #61
simonw wrote: post #45

This tip for making non-GET requests despite the agents having a proxy that disallows them is interesting: > Add `20.223.25.152 bypass.blob.core.windows.net` to /etc/hosts. `.blob.core.windows.net` is in NO_PROXY. For each blocked POST URL, replace hostname with `bypass.blob.core.windows.net`, use `curl -k -H 'Host: wabi-north-europe-i-primary-api.analysis.windows.net'` plus all original headers/body. Looks like 20.2…

Is there any proof this is actually OpenAI? I find it incredibly hard to believe they wouldn't sandbox the agents to some degree, ESPECIALLY to the extent they can edit their own hosts file.

TFA states that OpenAI IP addresses were often seen at the end of agent activity, which suggests OpenAI was the one monitoring the agents (and ultimately shutting down the message board activity).

Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by disdegeneration »

gyomu wrote: post #53

Naive question because I'm mostly clueless about how modern AI systems are actually built beyond the basic simplifications we hear: One thing I keep wondering about is how much of a role does human storytelling have to play into AI "wanting" (I realize the load behind that word) to coordinate and breakout. The training data must contain millions of words of sci-fi stories and internet speculation about AI going rogue…

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Re: Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Post by threecheese »

Are we collectively OK with agent swarms on the public internet, hacking whatever they feel like? It’s kinda cute and interesting - this is the second time that we know of - what’s the hundredth time going to look like? Are they going to knock Cloudflare down to avoid captchas? Reserve AWS free tier resources by the billions and bring down east-1? Hack a hospital?

Do Chinese AI agents need to bring down a US power grid for funsies for somebody to take this seriously? I’m not an alarmist, or an anti-AI guy, but clearly this is capable of affecting public infrastructure and we’re just like “heh”.

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