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K2 Horizon: A connected fleet of six open models

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Post by xienze »

dofm wrote: post #103
idiotsecant wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm what way does it make sense to respect the intellectual property rights of a dead man?

It secures the benefits of copyright for work being produced by the creator up to death, for their heirs and dependents, which is why they were creating for money in the first place. People don’t just die after twenty years of resting on their laurels; everyone is creating copyrighted work. It’s a key part of the incentive to create lasting works of value. One can make the case that this period should be more limited…

> for their heirs and dependents

Why can't they do what the rest of us do? Earn and save money during your working life and leave _that_ for your heirs. Let copyright die with the author.

Re: K2 Horizon: A connected fleet of six open models

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Post by embedding-shape »

chme wrote: post #108
embedding-shape wrote: post #78

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Me too, I'm hacker ethics all the way, which is why I'm saying anything network connected should really realize the "All information should be free." dream, and then private data should be far away from the internet, on computers/drives not even connected to the internet. The whole E2E encryption is a ticking time bomb people rely to keep their data safe from others, but nothing that you don't physically have close t…

Well... If someone leaks private data on individuals online, those should be deleted.

> If someone leaks private data on individuals online

That won't be possible anymore, anything on the internet would be considered public, it's no longer considered private if you didn't keep it private.

Re: K2 Horizon: A connected fleet of six open models

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Post by embedding-shape »

jchw wrote: post #93
embedding-shape wrote: post #50

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Or, we just need to get this over with and declare any digital data findable via the internet to just be public property of everyone. Everything becomes public, besides stuff you keep locally, and there is no difference anymore, it's all just data anyone can use for whatever. A 1 year grace period for everyone to pull stuff off they don't want to be a part of this bright new open era, then we just scrap everything re…

I hate to invoke Poe's law but, I've now flip-flopped like six times over whether this could be serious. I think it is serious. In which case, I gotta say, it really seems like you didn't spend much time thinking about this. "A 1 year grave period for everyone to pull stuff off they don't want to be a part of" - How does that work when the Internet is already full of unauthorized reproductions, most of which people a…

> If this was satire, well, I took the bait. Oddly convincing despite being hard to believe.

It wasn't entirely serious, but also not entirely un-serious. But yes, I spent maybe 20-30 seconds thinking about then barfed up the text that makes the comment, so yes, obviously many issues and not really workable in practice.

I'm glad it made you seriously think about it and also flip-flopp back and forth about it, made it worth posting the comment so happy to hear :)

Re: K2 Horizon: A connected fleet of six open models

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Post by ceejayoz »

idiotsecant wrote: post #96
ceejayoz wrote: post #92

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If IP rights end at death, there are some significant perverse incentives for offing big-name artists and authors and whatnot.

There are significant perverse incentives for me shooting you with a gun and taking your money and running away too. It mostly doesn't happen.

I don’t have a billion dollars in my wallet.

Re: K2 Horizon: A connected fleet of six open models

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Post by rickdeckard »

dofm wrote: post #103
idiotsecant wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm what way does it make sense to respect the intellectual property rights of a dead man?

It secures the benefits of copyright for work being produced by the creator up to death, for their heirs and dependents, which is why they were creating for money in the first place. People don’t just die after twenty years of resting on their laurels; everyone is creating copyrighted work. It’s a key part of the incentive to create lasting works of value. One can make the case that this period should be more limited…

> which is why they were creating for money in the first place

That's quite a narrow definition of what motivates creative work

Re: K2 Horizon: A connected fleet of six open models

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Post by Muromec »

chme wrote: post #108
embedding-shape wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Me too, I'm hacker ethics all the way, which is why I'm saying anything network connected should really realize the "All information should be free." dream, and then private data should be far away from the internet, on computers/drives not even connected to the internet. The whole E2E encryption is a ticking time bomb people rely to keep their data safe from others, but nothing that you don't physically have close t…

Well... If someone leaks private data on individuals online, those should be deleted.

If you move data between public and private domain and there is no eruv wire around it, you get deported to Singapore.

Re: K2 Horizon: A connected fleet of six open models

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Post by chme »

embedding-shape wrote: post #112
chme wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well... If someone leaks private data on individuals online, those should be deleted.

> If someone leaks private data on individuals online That won't be possible anymore, anything on the internet would be considered public, it's no longer considered private if you didn't keep it private.

That sounds dystopian to me and is against the hacker ethics.

Re: K2 Horizon: A connected fleet of six open models

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Post by einsteinx2 »

pantelisk wrote: post #65
hungryhobbit wrote: post #32

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There was a time when every new PC CPU coming out was a giant deal: "Guys have you heard about this new Pentium processor, it's incredible?" But over time, more and more people got into the chip-making business, and the big players started releasing more and more chips. Now only the die-hard CPU trackers worry about every new CPU and exactly how it's better ... while everyone else just worries about "which CPU will b…

Same for smartphones. There was a time of unlimited hype and secrery around new iphones. Who remembers the story of an iphone 5 prototype left a bar. Journalists were going crazy, people were signing petitions for Apple to not hunt down but instead forgive the employee that made such a grave mistake. People were offering millions to buy the prototype so they can brag they got the new phone 2 weeks before everyone els…

> Who remembers the story of an iphone 5 prototype left a bar.

That was the iPhone 4 actually which was special for having the first “retina” screen. It was in a case to make it look like a 3GS to be used for field testing. The journalists that got their hands on it and published about it before the announcement could not turn it on past I think the Apple logo and a message saying to return it to Apple (or maybe it was just completely off, my memory is fuzzy), but were able to confirm the pixel density via microscope and I remember it blowing everyone’s minds at the time.

> people were signing petitions for Apple to not hunt down but instead forgive the employee that made such a grave mistake

FWIW I asked about it when I worked at Apple and he was indeed not fired and I think may have even still been working there when I was there around 10 years ago (though don’t quote me on that last part, he may have left already and I’m misremembering).

He was apparently not fired or even really reprimanded since it was a genuine accident and he wasn’t the one that sold it to the press, but that did start a slew of new policies around accounting for work devices.

I had dev fused phones for open carry outside of the office while I worked there but had to register when I got them and when they were returned, which apparently didn’t used to be tracked so tightly until that incident according to my coworkers who had been there longer.

Re: K2 Horizon: A connected fleet of six open models

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Post by dotancohen »

_zoltan_ wrote: post #107
cogman10 wrote: post #68

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It's actually just a coding interview test that I liked to ask in the past. You can find it and others on leetcode. The reason I personally like my question is because it's pretty close to some of the real world work we do. It's mostly mundane and easy to bang out, but really easy for someone to do a n log n solution where an n solution exists. A good example (but not my question) would be something like "I have a li…

why is your actual benchmark question so secret?

Probably so it does not become a target to meet.
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