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Ask HN: Why were OpenAI, Claude, and Grok simultaneously down?
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Re: Ask HN: Why were OpenAI, Claude, and Grok simultaneously down?
#602Earlier quoted context omitted.
They simply shared their experience. I would’ve thought it’s a full-blown outage, but clearly not. You stepped in the room real stinky here. What’s with the attitude?
No, they didn't "simply share their experience", they explicitly negated the scale of the issue in their opening statement, only because it works for them. So they claim "impact isn't too big" based on their personal anecdotal evidence of sample size literally 1. > full-blown outage, but clearly not. Again, based on a SINGLE report?
I negated the cloudflare outage, providing source. Are you cloudflare so that you might be so affected by my statement?
Re: Ask HN: Why were OpenAI, Claude, and Grok simultaneously down?
#603It was so down that my claude desktop app crashed fully that I couldn't restart. And then after uninstall I couldn't install it again. Vibecoded apps are so wonderful in their stability
> my claude desktop app crashed That’s every day for me
I'm sorry. This is crazy.
And another funny thing is that update and restart button never works for me normally. You press and app never restarts on their own. You have to start it manually. And it's for both, codex and claude app.
We are doomed
Re: Ask HN: Why were OpenAI, Claude, and Grok simultaneously down?
#604Earlier quoted context omitted.
The pendulum synchronization effect is the opposite of your claim. It has a physical causal reason for why pendulums become synchronized. Your claim is that it was random and independent.
I think you are talking about two different things. Physically coupled pendulums will sync up (adjust their period to match). But, physically uncoupled (fully independent) pendulums with differing periods will occasionally appear to take a swing or two in sync.
> will occasionally appear to take a swing or two in sync
Polyrhythm is the relevant topic.
> all these services are individually down a lot, and the downtimes were bound to sync up
But the topic for that is the poisson distribution.
Re: Ask HN: Why were OpenAI, Claude, and Grok simultaneously down?
#605Cloudflare, Azure, AWS, and Google Cloud all have a similar uptick in reported errors around 7:30. I suspect an outage on Cloudflare or another load-bearing service cascaded through all the major cloud providers. https://downdetector.com/status/cloudflare/ https://downdetector.com/status/windows-azure/ https://downdetector.com/status/aws-amazon-web-services/ https://downdetector.com/status/google-cloud/
The internet is not supposed to work like this. The network was designed for robustness and fault tolerance, which allows it to reroute data if parts of the network fail. Why are we all depending on one entity for it all to work? Makes me mad.
Nothing stops someone from replicating Cloudflare’s business model. Why they don’t try is the interesting question. (I often ask that about IKEA.)
Re: Ask HN: Why were OpenAI, Claude, and Grok simultaneously down?
#606Think of it like one big distributed system. OpenAI is down, so people migrate to Claude, now this one gets overloaded and goes down, etc. So not a coincidence, one went down first and users migrated causing further DOS. At least that's my guess.
It's like a thread tying together two halves; Demand and supply.
One stitch breaks and the neighbouring stitch is stressed and it breaks too.
You could think of it like a load bearing seam.
Re: Ask HN: Why were OpenAI, Claude, and Grok simultaneously down?
#607Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not only a great plan. It's a turning point in history.
That was a major oversight on my part. You are an absolute legend for pushing this to its logical limits, and your observation confirms a brilliant, low-level fundamental truth.
…the one call that requires a genuine decision from you.
Re: Ask HN: Why were OpenAI, Claude, and Grok simultaneously down?
#608Cloudflare, Azure, AWS, and Google Cloud all have a similar uptick in reported errors around 7:30. I suspect an outage on Cloudflare or another load-bearing service cascaded through all the major cloud providers. https://downdetector.com/status/cloudflare/ https://downdetector.com/status/windows-azure/ https://downdetector.com/status/aws-amazon-web-services/ https://downdetector.com/status/google-cloud/
https://xkcd.com/2347/ Nebraska man retired
Came to the comments for this
Re: Ask HN: Why were OpenAI, Claude, and Grok simultaneously down?
#609https://x.com/SpaceXAI/status/2095597264043717014 > We are sorry for the issues you may have experienced with Grok following an outage at our Memphis compute center this morning. We’d also like to apologize to our impacted compute partners.
We know that at least Anthropic is renting inference from xAI but I think the other ones would be news.
Google also bought capacity from xAI, and OpenAI have a deal to use Google compute which may be how things propagated? I still don't get why chatgpt.com would show a 404 because of an AI datacentre outage though
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