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Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by tock »

sgt101 wrote: post #827
abixb wrote: post #229

I want to take a step back: So, this is GPT-6 -- the natural number version release comparable to GPT-4 and GPT-5 from the past few years. The ARC-AGI-3 score is obviously impressive at 99.9% (we'll need to wait for more details on how they used the response API harness on GPT-6 Astra, wrt reasoning retention and compaction), but every other benchmarks seems to be a relatively modest improvement, comparable with any…

Does it learn? Does it experience? Can it connect with other agents, understand them, come to empathise with them and find a way to work with them better? The answer is no to all of these, and there are other problems as well. Yes, this model is trained to use a domain specific language to reason and plan over puzzle problems, and so it's programmers have cracked arc-agi-3 and that's a great achievement, but there is…

Why does it need to empathise with something that doesn't have feelings in the first place? It clearly can learn from context. And experience? Again I don't see why it needs to feel anything.

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by adonese »

CSMastermind wrote: post #353
HAL3000 wrote: post #138

Finally, OpenAI has a Fable/Mythos class model. 5.6 Sol felt like 5.5 on steroids, probably just a different checkpoint with a lot more RL post training. I wouldn't be surprised if there are some conceptual similarities to the kind of latent reasoning Anthropic sees in claude's J-space, although those aren't the same thing. Recurrent/looped transformers themselves aren't a new concept, but it's interesting to finally…

Sol easily outperforms Fable on every task I've tried it on.

what i found to work well with me is Fable for design / ideas and Sol for implementation. Codex models just tend to be more attentive and follow through instructions. Whereby claude models are weaker on this area (they tend to cut corners).

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by dude250711 »

colesantiago wrote: post #193

I'm going to call it. By 2030 all software is done and complete. But we are going to have more and new jobs.

> But we are going to have more and new jobs.

Like "fifth-rank junior assistant spouse in a comfort harem of an ultra-rich person".

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by TomGarden »

sbinnee wrote: post #306

I dropped my claude subscription a few months ago, though I kept some credits to do this and that with claude, thinking that claude might do better for some tasks. A few days ago they were all expired. It feels like it’s time to let claude go.

They're all complimentary. I've had double subs at the top tiers for a while now. Best of both worlds

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by Revanche1367 »

Chinjut wrote: post #321

What is going to become of life for those of us who do not work at AI labs and are unlikely to be hired by AI labs, despite all the years we put into learning coding, math, etc, as we were told to do? Those of us who made the mistake of studying anything other than machine learning. How will we make a living? (We don't live in a world that seems likely to distribute gains widely instead of largely to the handful of a…

Join an industry where they need someone to blame when things go wrong.

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by firemelt »

jumploops wrote: post #506

I think the thing I'm most excited about is the increase in _user prompting_. If I give a poorly constrained/ambiguous prompt, I don't want the model one-shotting assumptions left and right. The demos of Fable/GPT-6 are impressive, but "real AGI" should act more like a collaborator than either a peon or overachiever. It's a tough balance to get right, and although this has been possible to achieve with additional pro…

this before executing I ask my ai to discuss what I mean/intention

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by phtrivier »

Buttons840 wrote: post #422
Planktonne wrote: post #258

I'm sure it's going to do great on all sorts of benchmarks, but the video--the actual marketing video that if anything is incentivised to overstate things--is full of careful cuts just before it would do anything that still wouldn't actually be that impressive. It's AGI, and it's going to upload photos, or change a background slide colour. Even the people hyping it up, who believe that it's really artificial intellig…

The tone of the marketing video is a bit irritating to me as someone who has been laid off and feels cheated and fearful of AI. It shows people who seem to have very full and rich lives, and the reason they do is because they use ChatGPT. These are the people smart enough to say things like "do what needs to be done", or "change the background to make it look better"--insights like these are why they make the big buc…

People spent thousands of year justifying different standards of living on the ground of "having cleverly chosen their parents".

And everyone _got along with it_.

And in a sense, we're still doing just that (ask the other 2/3th of the world to explain why your standards of living are above theirs.)

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