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Re: .name Termination

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Post by userbinator »

jawns wrote: post #48

Surely the author must have anticipated some heightened level of risk in pegging important parts of his personal and business life on a nonstandard TLD like this. It's a pretty bizarre exception to the normal, intuitive ways that domains work. I'll admit that it's a crappy situation and I would be frustrated in his place. But if I were in his place, I probably would have also thought it prudent to have a backup plan.

Anything other than .com, .net, .org, and well-known ccTLDs I see in search results subconsciously get skipped over as "probably SEO spam or other useless content". These new weird TLDs are like the .tk and .us of old.

Re: .name Termination

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Post by crabmusket »

projectileboy wrote: post #360

We keep expecting for-profit organizations to behave as governments. And this is an especially easy sell in the US, where government has been vilified for decades as part of a long propaganda game run by those who wish to privatize and steal those things which should rightfully exist in the public domain. But for-profit organizations, by design, will never ever ever behave in the public interest, and it’s foolish to…

Amen to this. I don't know why we put up with this for infrastructure in particular.

Re: .name Termination

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Post by zamadatix »

aliasxneo wrote: post #377
breakingcups wrote: post #357

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If your solution can't survive public scrutiny, it doesn't seem like a trustworthy solution?

We're simply choosing to build in a small group of closely aligned individuals and organizations right now. Many will become the first participants in helping run the public network across the globe. The network will launch completely in the open, including open sourcing the code. People can choose to wait until then to make their decisions or if they are particularly interested they can reach out to me about joining…

A solution built in isolation by a group who just publicly tried to ride the AI wave with it is not a promising set of signs, but I have no problem leaving it at that until all is public and hoping it regains trust then!

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Post by disillusioned »

Calavar wrote: post #386
TLDRisk wrote: post #367

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's been through the Ombuds and a reconsideration request [1]. ICANN says: > There will not be any effect on the life cycle of domain names. While the Requestor may disagree with Verisign’s response, the Requestor has not shown that ICANN relied upon false or inaccurate material information. The life cycle of a domain name begins when the domain is registered, then moves through various stages before ultimately comi…

> Early termination of a domain registration does not impact the life cycle of the domain, as the domain can still go through the various stages of a standard life cycle. According to ICANN cutting the life cycle short doesn't have any effect on the life cycle? ICANN corruption is at the level of FIFA corruption.

That's like saying murdering someone doesn't have any effect on their life cycle because the full cycle: birth, life, death, plays out. The timing, evidently, isn't a factor!

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Post by tptacek »

markhahn wrote: post #149
nneonneo wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since neither smith.name nor the wildcard *.name appear in the Public Suffix List ( https://publicsuffix.org/ ), browsers would likely allow any page on a *.smith.name domain to set cookies for .smith.name. There was an effort to properly handle the .name 2LDs, but it was never resolved because there’s no easy way to tell a reserved 2LD (open for 3LD registrations only) apart from a normal 2LD on .name: https://githu…

I'm always mystified why we haven't leveraged DNS. I mean: why not have cookie policy set by a flag in DNS? Not unlike DKIM or even SSHFP. Of course, we wouldn't need the entire certificate industry if we simply looked up a site's PK along with its DNS record...

No, we wouldn't, you're right. We'd just replace LetsEncrypt and the ISRG with the security track records and policy integrity of the major DNS providers, many of which are state-controlled, and the largest of which are too important to revoke.

Really hard to understand why that hasn't happened yet!

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Post by sciyoshi »

nanolith wrote: post #297

This risk factor is similar to one I brought up during architectural review of an IoT company I helped to build. It's why the identity certificates our devices used were entirely disconnected from domain names, and why the discovery protocol I put together did not rely on registered domains, but could use these as an untrusted part of discovery. Domain names are leased. Things that are leased can disappear. The compa…

It's the same reason I was nervous moving our company domain to a .ai TLD; your entire presence, identity and trust is now beholden to the whims and political winds of a Caribbean island smaller than Topeka.

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Post by esseph »

dbt00 wrote: post #198
dpoloncsak wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can say, as a SysAdmin, I have been taught and tell my users to check the domain to verify a website is real. It's a strange edgecase that the owner of John.Doe.com does not need to own Doe.com In every other case that I know about, to own the Joe subdomain of Doe.com, you would need to own Doe.com edit: I guess I've gotten so used to the government 3LDs I just don't even see them anymore, or just see something lik…

That is definitely not true. There are literally thousands if not tens of thousands of well known domains that do this. .co.uk is a very common example.

This seems largely country dependent with some exceptions.

In the US, once upon a time, elementary/middle/highschools might be attached to something like schoolname.district.state.gov. But now, even my local area school now has a .com. It seems that older hierarchy style is falling out of fashion for smaller/shorter domains across public services, schools, government agencies, etc.

Now here it seems to be either a .com, .gov, .org, or a totally different and newer tld. Even .net has fallen out of fashion.

Re: .name Termination

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Post by dang »

NAR8789 wrote: post #408

@dang can you update the domain extraction logic for hn titles to include the 3rd level domain for .name domains? It's a little too poetically unfortunate that HN lists the domain on this article as `fraser.name`

Sure. We have this for countries, like "example.co.uk", so I made "name" be a country and it...just works (maybe).

You only get a first name and a last name and a .name though. You can't be robert.louis.stevenson.name - just louis.stevenson.name.

(Incidentally, this was a Claude suggestion. The change only took a couple minutes but figuring out what mechanism in the code could do this would have taken me a lot longer.)

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Post by jonhohle »

UltraSane wrote: post #380
jonhohle wrote: post #184

One of the reasons I stick with Big Email for my primary email is cases similar to this. If I host email and lose the domain one day, I’ve lost two factor on a thousand different services (the single factor on some). Big Email’s policy is to not reissue my address, should I lose it or die. The .name scenario is even worse. One domain gives you access to tens of thousands of users email. It seems like a privacy nightm…

one neat thing having your own domain lets you do is have ANY @domainyouown be sent to your inbox so this gives you unlimited email aliases. I often prefix the SOURCE of the email, like toyota@domainIown

I understand the advantages and have run email on my own domains for decades. Those aliases are used for business or partitioning senders. If they fail, my life goes on.

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Post by CoffeeOnWrite »

esseph wrote: post #427
dbt00 wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is definitely not true. There are literally thousands if not tens of thousands of well known domains that do this. .co.uk is a very common example.

This seems largely country dependent with some exceptions. In the US, once upon a time, elementary/middle/highschools might be attached to something like schoolname.district.state.gov. But now, even my local area school now has a .com. It seems that older hierarchy style is falling out of fashion for smaller/shorter domains across public services, schools, government agencies, etc. Now here it seems to be either a .c…

The writing was on the wall when Pennsylvania switched their license plates from www.state.pa.us to visitpa.com
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