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Protecting Engineers' Skills in the AI Era

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Re: Protecting Engineers' Skills in the AI Era

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Quote: A perfectly optimized system that produces incompetent operators is not optimized at all. It has simply moved its failure mode somewhere the spreadsheet can’t see it.

The second sentence is an ai generation tell. Idk why ai always tries these sort of “wow you” sentences. The tone is pretty off putting once you’ve experienced it enough times.

Obsession with invisible/quiet/ghosts

Re: Protecting Engineers' Skills in the AI Era

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

it seems like the entire world is in some kind of delusional trance, generating "value" with these AI slop articles and AI art or maybe it's just that I can't imagine people actually putting their time into reading this all when they pick up on the LLMisms. maybe they'll just stop reading these articles altogether

With been in delusional trance for 30+ years generating "value" in form of endless documents, analyses, memos, presentations, reviews, reports, and so on and so forth. The only thing that changed recently is that producing documents is now easier than ever.

Strong disagree. Do not conflate hard, human created works with AI slop.

Re: Protecting Engineers' Skills in the AI Era

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This appears to be a completely AI-generated article, in which AI is telling us how to protect ourselves against AI. I don't know what's going over at IEEE, but every article from them that I've seen in the past year is like that and I really don't understand what's the long game.

The writer is the CEO of... whatever this is: https://auraspark.com/

Completely slopped up website, zero human touch. I would even go so far as to call them a hyprocrite, for getting AI to do all that for them instead of, you guessed it, training a junior engineer to do it.

Re: Protecting Engineers' Skills in the AI Era

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post #5

This appears to be a completely AI-generated article, in which AI is telling us how to protect ourselves against AI. I don't know what's going over at IEEE, but every article from them that I've seen in the past year is like that and I really don't understand what's the long game.

it seems like the entire world is in some kind of delusional trance, generating "value" with these AI slop articles and AI art or maybe it's just that I can't imagine people actually putting their time into reading this all when they pick up on the LLMisms. maybe they'll just stop reading these articles altogether

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Re: Protecting Engineers' Skills in the AI Era

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post #5

This appears to be a completely AI-generated article, in which AI is telling us how to protect ourselves against AI. I don't know what's going over at IEEE, but every article from them that I've seen in the past year is like that and I really don't understand what's the long game.

it seems like the entire world is in some kind of delusional trance, generating "value" with these AI slop articles and AI art or maybe it's just that I can't imagine people actually putting their time into reading this all when they pick up on the LLMisms. maybe they'll just stop reading these articles altogether

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Re: Protecting Engineers' Skills in the AI Era

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---- My poem about sacrificing Engineering Best Practices on the Altar of AI Efficiency.

First, they made CI/CD pipelines to automate the builds and deployment - and I said nothing because I didn't want to watch the scripts run. It's only running my code anyway, and more automation is good. Less for me to do!

Then, they integrated AI into our IDE - and I said nothing because the guardrails kept it in check. It's only writing code following my instructions, and more automation is good. Less for me to do!

Then, they requested source control access so the business owners could skip all the feature planning back-and-forth and just chat with an AI agent until the feature looks how they want it - and I said nothing because they're not merging into master. I'm still in charge of reviewing code, and I have an AI agent helping me review code using some rules and invariants I've handed it, and more automation is good. Less for me to do!

Now, they are requesting an always-on AI agent reviews and merges their code into master with 0 human interaction because their PRs which contain 300K lines changed each have started to pile up over the last 3 days. And I have to just do it because boss man pays my bills. But hey, more automation is good. Less for me to do.... until everything breaks and I have 1 hour to find why the million lines of code merged this week don't work anymore.

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The story makes it sound like I didn't push back. I did. But after being forced to ignore a full career's worth of red flags and best practices I'm now just whoring my skills out to see how deep this AI-fully-replacing-devs rabbit hole goes. Besides, when else am I going to have crazy money to just throw at a new server and set it up to replace the SDLC end-to-end with a rich man's AI? And there's still the fun technical challenge of "can I make this system secure enough that even when I automate myself out of a job I couldn't revenge hack it?"

Re: Protecting Engineers' Skills in the AI Era

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"It is the training apparatus of your future senior staff, and you should protect it the way you’d protect any other piece of critical infrastructure."

I think a problem is that especially with the culture of job hopping a lot and high turnover you can't be sure that you're not just training staff that'll go elsewhere. It's like an industry wide prisoners dilemna.

Re: Protecting Engineers' Skills in the AI Era

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post #8
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it seems like the entire world is in some kind of delusional trance, generating "value" with these AI slop articles and AI art or maybe it's just that I can't imagine people actually putting their time into reading this all when they pick up on the LLMisms. maybe they'll just stop reading these articles altogether

With been in delusional trance for 30+ years generating "value" in form of endless documents, analyses, memos, presentations, reviews, reports, and so on and so forth. The only thing that changed recently is that producing documents is now easier than ever.

I agree, there’s a lot of truth to this statement, AI in a sense is exposing how worthless this always was
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