There are official extensions for using Antigravity in IDEs. "Antigravity uses a unified authentication system across all IDE extensions, the Antigravity CLI, and Antigravity 2.0 (Desktop). Your sign-in determines your model entitlements, quota limits, and data privacy policies."
Google Antigravity TOS: 3rd party usage can get Google account suspended
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Re: Google Antigravity TOS: 3rd party usage can get Google account suspended
#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
Centralization of power at all levels is bad. I therefore agree in spirit. But who is the 'we' in that 'we'? If you defer to a politician, you simply centralize more power into a body of government constrained by only cultural norms and donor interests. Making a change requires the shifting of the overtone window of acceptability. At that point, it executes on it own regardless of mechanism. The cultural norms are th…
> If you defer to a politician, you simply centralize more power into a body of government constrained by only cultural norms and donor interests. You're taking it as a premise that someone should have this power, i.e. that the centralization should actually exist. Compare two alternatives. One, each person has (is required to have) a single account across all services. You use the same account for the DMV, YouTube,…
Open standards, protocols, and interoperability are definitely part of my values.
But you're still relying on a law if I understand you correctly.
If the society lacks them as deeply ingrained values as opposed to somehow to getting lawmakers to force them, then they will be implemented cynically and not within the spirit of the values. The type of thing that happened with apple's implementation of the anti-gate-keeping laws 'enforced' by the eu.
What you describe requires a flexible values system - not a single semantic standard. I'd love to live in a world where if you were big enough to have people wanting to interoperate with your service on behalf of your users and you were actively preventing it, you'd be an outcast in the deepest sense. That no users would touch your service, and it would be politically unfeasible to deal with you.
We don't live in that world because people have not developed this sort of social norm.
Re: Google Antigravity TOS: 3rd party usage can get Google account suspended
#163Earlier quoted context omitted.
our govt farms the authorization out to banks (multiple of them), seems to work well. There is also a govt auth on top of that if you don't want that.
Banks can't just ban you, nor just take your money. The price they pay for being gatekeepers is a ton of regulation. This is why PayPal for the longest time made it really clear that "we are not a bank". So that they wouldn't be subject to those regulations and could suspend accounts and keep the money.
> Banks can't just ban you
They kinda can.
Re: Google Antigravity TOS: 3rd party usage can get Google account suspended
#164Just for reference, stuff like this is exactly why some people oppose the forced Apple/Google requirement in government systems like the new eIDs (eIDAS) in Europe. If you're forced to use Apple/Google for digital identification, playing around with your Google account and get it banned can have disproportional consequences. Suddenly you're locked out of all online government systems.
In that case you should be able to create another Google account.
Politicians have been pushing companies to be more aggressive about banning individuals who open new accounts after their previous one gets banned. That was even one of the requirements of the deal in the recent social media court case in the US.
Re: Google Antigravity TOS: 3rd party usage can get Google account suspended
#165Earlier quoted context omitted.
In that case you should be able to create another Google account.
Politicians have been pushing companies to be more aggressive about banning individuals who open new accounts after their previous one gets banned. That was even one of the requirements of the deal in the recent social media court case in the US.
What's your evidence politicians are relevant to this?
Re: Google Antigravity TOS: 3rd party usage can get Google account suspended
#166Earlier quoted context omitted.
Centralization of power at all levels is bad. I therefore agree in spirit. But who is the 'we' in that 'we'? If you defer to a politician, you simply centralize more power into a body of government constrained by only cultural norms and donor interests. Making a change requires the shifting of the overtone window of acceptability. At that point, it executes on it own regardless of mechanism. The cultural norms are th…
We the people
How?
Re: Google Antigravity TOS: 3rd party usage can get Google account suspended
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Re: Google Antigravity TOS: 3rd party usage can get Google account suspended
#168Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe we should reframe how we see the big gate keepers like Google and Apple as they seem to be a new concept. They are not governments but have properties of them. Governments are defined as having a monopoly on violence. And we, through a lot of struggles, were able to attenuate this power such that this power was not granted to a single person alone but both distributed to the judgement of many and codified so th…
> I don't believe government regulation is the answer While I agree with where you're coming from in spirit, if you want to push this then you've got to do the work of actually coming up with workable concrete approaches rather than hand waving against a whole general category of action. The problem is that digital communications lend themselves to centralized power, and power vacuums inevitably get filed by somethin…
IP is super decentralised. Digital communications could have led to a more decentralised society than ever before, and in the beginning , they end. But in the end, they didn't, because large actors figured out how to exploit them.
Re: Google Antigravity TOS: 3rd party usage can get Google account suspended
#169Earlier quoted context omitted.
our govt farms the authorization out to banks (multiple of them), seems to work well. There is also a govt auth on top of that if you don't want that.
Banks can't just ban you, nor just take your money. The price they pay for being gatekeepers is a ton of regulation. This is why PayPal for the longest time made it really clear that "we are not a bank". So that they wouldn't be subject to those regulations and could suspend accounts and keep the money.
Banks can just ban you if they whisper the magic words "suspected money laundering". They are theoretically accountable to a process that takes 500 years and 3 quadrillion dollars to reach a resolution, then they will unban you. You might notice both you and the bank will be dead by that time.
Re: Google Antigravity TOS: 3rd party usage can get Google account suspended
#170It's never too late to degoogle.
Buy a domain. Get fastmail, proton mail or any other service. Point your DNS to it. Done.