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Re: Qwen 3.8 27B available on Cerebras at 1500 tokens/s

#91

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I tried in your playground and got 14.2 tok/s?

just added 8 more H200s to the cluster, if you (or anyone else) runs into issues please feel free to drop me a message: zack at mixlayer.com

Works much better now! Got 103.9 tok/s, not quite 200 - but still amazing! Thanks for sharing

Re: Qwen 3.8 27B available on Cerebras at 1500 tokens/s

#92

150k TPM limit on public endpoint means that it's likely unusable for many coding tasks. When we've tried Cerebras in the past, our problem has always been rates. We'd love to not deal with dedicated and to have access to a more flexible rate pool. Even trying it out, it seems like our account has gotten moved to some limbo where we can no longer add billing information. ``` Billing access restricted Self-serve billi…

This was my experience a year ago on some other model they could run super fast. Routine coding tasks would hit the per-minute token limits.

Just the math there... 150k TPM... and 15k TPS means... you can run for 10 seconds every minute?

The basic math boggles the mind.

Re: Qwen 3.8 27B available on Cerebras at 1500 tokens/s

#93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tried in your playground and got 14.2 tok/s?

just added 8 more H200s to the cluster, if you (or anyone else) runs into issues please feel free to drop me a message: zack at mixlayer.com

FYI, I might be missing something but I think your billing system might not be working well - I'm not seeing any indication in the UI that my usage is being deducted from the $5 of free credits.

Re: Qwen 3.8 27B available on Cerebras at 1500 tokens/s

#94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

just added 8 more H200s to the cluster, if you (or anyone else) runs into issues please feel free to drop me a message: zack at mixlayer.com

Works much better now! Got 103.9 tok/s, not quite 200 - but still amazing! Thanks for sharing

Something a lot of model providers don't talk about: any time an engine uses speculative decoding the throughput will depend on how much your output token distribution matches what the draft model was trained on.

The DFlash2 draft model we're using was trained on a lot of code, so if you use it in a coding agent you'll probably notice it run a lot faster (we've seen it break 300 tok/s).

Re: Qwen 3.8 27B available on Cerebras at 1500 tokens/s

#95
post #92

150k TPM limit on public endpoint means that it's likely unusable for many coding tasks. When we've tried Cerebras in the past, our problem has always been rates. We'd love to not deal with dedicated and to have access to a more flexible rate pool. Even trying it out, it seems like our account has gotten moved to some limbo where we can no longer add billing information. ``` Billing access restricted Self-serve billi…

This was my experience a year ago on some other model they could run super fast. Routine coding tasks would hit the per-minute token limits. Just the math there... 150k TPM... and 15k TPS means... you can run for 10 seconds every minute? The basic math boggles the mind.

Not sure how the rate limiting works, but it's 1.5k TPS, not 15k, so you could run it for 100s/min, which seems good enough to me

Re: Qwen 3.8 27B available on Cerebras at 1500 tokens/s

#96

Qwen 3.8 27B is an exceptional model for coding and ranks as one of the best local models for coding....BUT in my head I am confused why a company that's IPO'd doesn't invest in RL'd super specialized, super-damn-fast models for very specific tasks - instead of giving us the OSS GPT model from what feels like 200 years ago

Especially since they still serve Codex-Spark, which is dogshit.

Re: Qwen 3.8 27B available on Cerebras at 1500 tokens/s

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post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This was my experience a year ago on some other model they could run super fast. Routine coding tasks would hit the per-minute token limits. Just the math there... 150k TPM... and 15k TPS means... you can run for 10 seconds every minute? The basic math boggles the mind.

Not sure how the rate limiting works, but it's 1.5k TPS, not 15k, so you could run it for 100s/min, which seems good enough to me

iirc input (uncached) goes towards the limit as well

Re: Qwen 3.8 27B available on Cerebras at 1500 tokens/s

#98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

just added 8 more H200s to the cluster, if you (or anyone else) runs into issues please feel free to drop me a message: zack at mixlayer.com

FYI, I might be missing something but I think your billing system might not be working well - I'm not seeing any indication in the UI that my usage is being deducted from the $5 of free credits.

Hey Daniel! It's a bit hidden, but at the bottom of the billing page there's a "Credits" section which should show usage of any active credits and the balance remaining. The usage/billing metrics are batched/handled async so it might take a minute or so for usage to be reflected. Let us know if it feels off.

Re: Qwen 3.8 27B available on Cerebras at 1500 tokens/s

#99
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I was wondering whether this was any good for programming, but it is too fast for its own good. There is a limit of 450,000 tokens per minute. I hit this limit in about 90 seconds and burned through $1.10 while doing so. This is because cached tokens count towards the token limit. For comparison, I ran the same task with DeepSeek-V4-Flash, which finished in 172 seconds and cost $0.024 with a final context window size…

Without prompt caching this becomes more expensive than fable 5.1 after turn 50, assuming you start with 40k tokens and add 2k per turn.

Re: Qwen 3.8 27B available on Cerebras at 1500 tokens/s

#100

I have used their gemma 4 31b model through kagi and getting real instantaneous answers is absolutely crazy. A very different feeling and UX. Even if the model is smaller, there is definitely a use case for these. I was wondering if they would put the qwen 27b model, it sounds very interesting to try.

The thing I didn’t realize for a while is 27B is rather smart. As many (or more) activated parameters as the flash models of the universe that we know about. It reasons very well. It just doesn’t have a lot of knowledge.

They seem to have good enough general intelligence that missing knowledge is not that big thing. If you are able to have a proper [free search engine], they can do almost anything. Having own local search index about relevant stuff can help a lof if you don’t want to pay for search API.
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