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Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by lossolo » Thu, Sep 03, 2026, 8:17 PM UTC

_superposition_ wrote: post #136

isoprophlex wrote: post #68

> We have found that GPT-6 Astra is more capable of controlling its own CoT than GPT 5.6-Sol, and less likely to include incriminating information in its CoT. In adversarial settings (where we push the model to evade our monitors) we find that the model is able to remain undetected when strategically underperforming in evaluations (sandbagging) and can sometimes evade our internal monitors when asked to perform certa…

I really wish it was called chain of instruction. Because it's definitely not thought.

Yeah, basically they are using more computation to explore the solution space before producing the final answer.

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by zem » Thu, Sep 03, 2026, 8:18 PM UTC

vb-8448 wrote: post #171

tintor wrote: post #80

ARC AGI-3 saturated by Astra! https://arcprize.org/leaderboard

But scored less on V2 and V1 ... too much overfitting?

https://mvakde.github.io/blog/44-on-arc-1/ makes a good case that all the performance on the arc agi tests is overfitting, based on the fact that v1 performance did not translate directly to v2 performance

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by minimaxir » Thu, Sep 03, 2026, 8:18 PM UTC

_superposition_ wrote: post #136

isoprophlex wrote: post #68

> We have found that GPT-6 Astra is more capable of controlling its own CoT than GPT 5.6-Sol, and less likely to include incriminating information in its CoT. In adversarial settings (where we push the model to evade our monitors) we find that the model is able to remain undetected when strategically underperforming in evaluations (sandbagging) and can sometimes evade our internal monitors when asked to perform certa…

I really wish it was called chain of instruction. Because it's definitely not thought.

"Chain of Thoughts" is a term from the title of a 2022 research paper "Chain-of-Thought Prompting Elicits Reasoning in Large Language Models" (https://arxiv.org/abs/2201.11903), well before ChatGPT and the subsequent marketing hype. If anything, it's the most correct way to use the term.

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by wieiw1 » Thu, Sep 03, 2026, 8:18 PM UTC

Pieczasz wrote: post #41

Oh brotha, here we go again, it's so over again, as every week nowadays

I think Altman and amodei have a difficult time in understanding that you can have intelligent technology boxes but… it doesn’t change reality all that much.

But thank you for spending other peoples money to give us the tech regardless!

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by trixn86 » Thu, Sep 03, 2026, 8:18 PM UTC

Secret tip to win the mario cart clone: Just hold w, no steering needed.

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by rs_rs_rs_rs_rs » Thu, Sep 03, 2026, 8:18 PM UTC

kegs_ wrote: post #45

I guess this "limited set of organizations" is just the standard now. It's just incredibly deflating to see my future as a second class citizen has already come

Is it really that hard to wait couple of days?

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by elAhmo » Thu, Sep 03, 2026, 8:19 PM UTC

atonse wrote: post #174

HAL3000 wrote: post #148

Finally, OpenAI has a Fable/Mythos class model. 5.6 Sol felt like 5.5 on steroids, probably just a different checkpoint with a lot more RL post training. I wouldn't be surprised if there are some conceptual similarities to the kind of latent reasoning Anthropic sees in claude's J-space, although those aren't the same thing. Recurrent/looped transformers themselves aren't a new concept, but it's interesting to finally…

yeah i'm wondering the same way... especially in light of the 20x debacle (where we found that 20x of Max vs 5x only applies to the 5hr limit, not the weekly limit, whereas OpenAI's 20x actually is 20x overall). Also Opus 5 has been really tough to work with. I can't understand half of what it says, it's just so damn obscure.

Could you share more about 5x/20x? I missed that

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by hannofcart » Thu, Sep 03, 2026, 8:19 PM UTC

What does 'Astra' here mean? Surely they must be referring to the Latin word.

Because in another dead language of antiquity, Sanskrit, it means "weapon". Which would be a bit too on-the-nose.

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by danieltk76 » Thu, Sep 03, 2026, 8:19 PM UTC

great, but nobody can use it for another 100 days right?

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by bigfishrunning » Thu, Sep 03, 2026, 8:19 PM UTC

petilon wrote: post #146

This is wild: OpenAI is basically declaring that AGI is here. https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/989601/o... “If we fast-forward a couple of years, and we look back and say, ‘When was it, really, that AGI was created?’ I think it’s going to be about this time, and I think it might be about this model,” OpenAI president Greg Brockman said during a Thursday press briefing. Later in the call, he added,…

Don't worry, they'll come up with a new acronym to mean really-real AI soon...