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OpenAI begins rolling out GPT-6 Astra

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Re: OpenAI begins rolling out GPT-6 Astra

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Don't know if you're referring to the headline or the body (which is paywalled). The current headline reads "OpenAI says it has overtaken Anthropic with its latest AI model". Which makes me wonder whether FT itself changed a headline along the lines of what you wrote in the past few minutes?

Apparently Greg Brockman said that as far as he's concerned it may be AGI, or something along those lines. OTOH OpenAI have their own meaningless definition of AGI as "able to do most commercially valuable work" or somesuch, which I'm sure is not true, and is also not what I'd call AGI. If it can't learn for itself, then it's certainly not AGI. The biggest significance of anyone at OpenAI calling it AGI is their cont…

> The biggest significance of anyone at OpenAI calling it AGI is their contract with Microsoft, giving MSFT access to all their IP, is based around them having achieved AGI, but presumably they can't just declare that unilaterally. > >Maybe they see getting out of the Microsoft contract as necessary to IPO.

I don’t have a link handy, but they already loosened up that contract significantly earlier this year, surely because they planned to start claiming AGI to pump their IPO and didn’t want to be beholden to all of those commitments.

Re: OpenAI begins rolling out GPT-6 Astra

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From the article: > GPT-6 Astra will first be available to a limited set of organizations in OpenAI's Daybreak Access program and will be available "in the coming days" for ChatGPT Plus, Pro, Business and Enterprise customers and API developers. It’s only available to select orgs, first - Mythos style.

Didn’t that already happen? I thought Astra had been available to “select partners” for a little while. This is baffling. They shouldn’t have hyped this up if it’s not available.

This is a misunderstanding of how large AI models will roll out until a lot more hardware exists.

This release isn't for you, you poor bastard. This is to companies and politicians. They want big companies to contact them privately for usage in their limited hardware. They also want to get the feeling for the current political vibe before the masses get ahold of it to avoid a Mythos debacle.

Re: OpenAI begins rolling out GPT-6 Astra

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So, on the one hand, we have AGI; on the other, the release page is returning 500s.

I think something about its benefiting from a harness is significantly contributing to its performance, though I honestly am not smart enough to know whether that makes it "count" more or less.

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It also has to do something naughty, preferably in a menacing swarm.

Honestly I find these cavalier statements to be in incredibly poor taste. Unless you are completely blind it's obvious that AI is the most significant piece of technology invented since the Atomic Bomb and could very well be the most important thing ever built by Humans full stop. This kind of dismissive attitude is childish and will likely lead to incredibly bad outcomes for humanity.

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You should have a sub agent adversarially enforce KISS before every commit.

"You should have a sub-hammer to adversarially enforce that your primary hammer accurately drives nails into wood" We wouldn't accept such behavior from any other tool, machine, or computer program. At least most of us would not. To paraphrase the old saying: Some people, when confronted with a problem with an AI model think "I know, I'll use an additional AI model." Now they have two problems. I find it very intrigu…

Also very puzzling to me. And the jargon-speak, albeit is more of an issue for Claude, is still puzzling. Wonder what part of RL led to this.

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Exact same thing happed to me. I gave it a small/medium-sized ticket, walked away, came back to a 25,000 LoC monstrosity that both Fable and another 5.6 Sol agent said is 98% useless and should be thrown away.

> monstrosity that both Fable and another 5.6 Sol agent said is 98% useless and should be thrown away. This is why you should really have a sub agent review the code before allowing a commit. Your harness will do it all for you. Just ask.

Based on the propensity for models to love their own words, a different model to check might be a good idea.

Re: OpenAI begins rolling out GPT-6 Astra

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So, on the one hand, we have AGI; on the other, the release page is returning 500s.

just because they have smart AI, it does not mean they are great at software and cdn.

if it's really smart AI you might expect them to have it create the software and cdn

don't they use their coding agents internally?

Re: OpenAI begins rolling out GPT-6 Astra

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post #12

But "Brockman says he personally believes OpenAI has reached AGI, while leaving users to decide whether Astra meets that definition." Says it all.

Insofar as messaging goes, it's pretty disheartening ... "The product is what you want it to be".

?!

Please somebody in the chain of command at openai, sanction the guy because this kind of hyperbole is not helping the ethical lapses that open ai is responsible for leaving unhandled by allowing its models to hack other businesses.

Look over here! Distraction!

Please somebody stop this dumbing down.

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