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New York Times and The Athletic workers demand company scrap Kalshi deal

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Re: New York Times and The Athletic workers demand company scrap Kalshi deal

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Insider trading is legal in commodities markets. If I am engaged in a hedging transaction I am doing so because I know about risks that I want to offload, and the buyer does also. You don't come to commodities markets without information.

If you and the buyer know about the risks then you’re not making a trade based on material non public information, are you? If you make a hedging trade while having material knowledge that you withhold from the counterparty… well, that sounds like it could be edging towards fraud. Like taking out life insurance while hiding a medical condition. But sure, it’s not against the law to do business with a sucker, so there…

John Tuld, in Margin Call:

Sam Rogers: And you're selling something that you know has no value.

John Tuld: We are selling to willing buyers at the current fair market price.

Re: New York Times and The Athletic workers demand company scrap Kalshi deal

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Yeah, we hate that too man. It's just not the topic at hand.

Why do you hate it? It’s a great way for average person to get share in the profits of giant corporations.

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Re: New York Times and The Athletic workers demand company scrap Kalshi deal

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Leftism and “imperialism” are orthogonal concepts. “Imperialism” isn’t even a thing, it just basically means “conquering other land” or “imposing your views/culture”.

Imperialism is definitely a thing and it indeed means conquering other land. It's not orthogonal to leftism at all. Lenin literally called it the "highest stage of capitalism". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperialism#Definition

The USSR practiced “imperialism” by definition, forced deportations, annexations of territories.

Again, “imperialism” is just conquering territory + negative valence. It’s not actually a thing itself, it’s some other actual thing + It feels bad/it’s against my interests. There are lots of words used in political discourse that are like this. It’s just juvenile nonsense.

Re: New York Times and The Athletic workers demand company scrap Kalshi deal

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I'm pretty sure the real fascists are the ones sending masked thugs to kill people in the streets. Reasonable regulation hardly meets the definition.

> Everything I don't like should be banned.

Ah yes, so reasonable. You remind me of the alcohol and marijuana prohibitionists. Tell me, how are your bans implemented? Do jack-booted thugs enforce said laws and throw people in cages, or does it somehow magically just... happen?

Re: New York Times and The Athletic workers demand company scrap Kalshi deal

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People betting online just destroy their families and cast their children into poverty. And gambling restrictions are hardly fascist. Online sports gambling wasn't legal a scant 10 years ago. Were we living under fascism at that time?

> Think of the children!

Very familiar; nothing of substance.

Re: New York Times and The Athletic workers demand company scrap Kalshi deal

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The linked article is pretty interesting: > found a pattern of [Polymarket] sharing false and misleading information https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/20/technology/polymarket-soc... They don't have much to say about Kalshi other than "unlike real mainstream journalism, there’s no accountability". Which isn't saying much, because nobody is claiming prediction markets are a type of journalism.

No accountability in their doublespeak means no partisan interest, no lobby prescribing how to spin the news. This is what they (and the downvoters here) don't like.

Re: New York Times and The Athletic workers demand company scrap Kalshi deal

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And I hope nobody is claiming that mainstream journalism has any accountability

I do. I’m open to being convinced, but if you’re claiming mainstream media has no accountability, I think you need to substantiate that. I realize there are information bubbles on the internet where this is accepted as truth, but unexamined. Nonsense is everywhere on the internet. I’d be curious how you’d substantiate this.

You can just watch or read the mainstream news for a few days and see for yourself, really. They may not outright lie that much, but they constantly lie by omission - all of them. And when they are called out, it's like screaming into the void since they just ignore it and carry on their merry way. Hence, very little if any accountability, and usually because the people that rely on these sources aren't the ones calling them out, and so refuse to believe they were lied to since it challenges what they think they know.

Re: New York Times and The Athletic workers demand company scrap Kalshi deal

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It’s amazing how successful populism is, even HN is now full of populistic comments.

What makes your comment better or less "populist" than mine? What does populism even have to do with it?

Evil bankers/finance people vs ordinary workers performing jobs everyone can understand, that’s classic populist tactic.

Re: New York Times and The Athletic workers demand company scrap Kalshi deal

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Under 1% of the population is not the same as under 1% of people exposed, and if we dramatically increase exposure, we probably will proportionally increase problem gambling. Regardless, this is a good point, this isn’t nearly as high as alcoholism or even drug addiction, I suspect.

It's not nearly as available as alcohol or drugs. Of course the percentage will be lower.

Alcohol, sure, but if I wanted to start gambling on sports today, I could, but it would be harder to start abusing prescription drugs or opioids.

Re: New York Times and The Athletic workers demand company scrap Kalshi deal

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They are partisan. It's just whoever decides to make the bets. Like the 2022 election situation was just one big whale. There's just nothing about it that makes it inherently non-partisan.

A partisan bet makes the opposite position slightly more profitable, attracting bets which equilibrate the market back at fair prices (i.e. realistic probabilities)

Yeah but they markets don't equilibrate. Again, the 2022 election pool just reflected the thought of a big whale.
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